Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 17:43:22 +0000
From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>
Cc: Xiongfeng Wang <wangxiongfeng2@huawei.com>,
        Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@foss.arm.com>,
        Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
        linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
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        lenb@kernel.org, morten.rasmussen@arm.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 7/9] arm64: Topology, rename cluster_id
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On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 11:32:00AM -0600, Jeremy Linton wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 01/03/2018 08:29 AM, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> >
> >On 02/01/18 02:29, Xiongfeng Wang wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>On 2017/12/18 20:42, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> >>>On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:36:35AM -0600, Jeremy Linton wrote:
> >>>>Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>On 12/13/2017 12:02 PM, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> >>>>>[+Morten, Dietmar]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>$SUBJECT should be:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>arm64: topology: rename cluster_id
> >>>>
> >>[cut]
> >>>>
> >>I think we still need the information describing which cores are in one
> >>cluster. Many arm64 chips have the architecture core/cluster/socket. Cores
> >>in one cluster may share a same L2 cache. That information can be used to
> >>build the sched_domain. If we put cores in one cluster in one sched_domain,
> >>the performance will be better.(please see kernel/sched/topology.c:1197,
> >>cpu_coregroup_mask() uses 'core_sibling' to build a multi-core
> >>sched_domain).
> >
> >We get all the cache information from DT/ACPI PPTT(mainly topology) and now
> >even the geometry. So ideally, the sharing information must come from that.
> >Any other solution might end up in conflict if DT/PPTT and that mismatch.
> >
> >>So I think we still need variable to record which cores are in one
> >>sched_domain for future use.
> >
> >I tend to say no, at-least not as is.
> >
> 
> Well, either way, with DynamiQ (and a55/a75) the cores have private L2's,
> which means that the cluster sharing is happening at what is then the L3
> level. So, the code I had in earlier versions would have needed tweaks to
> deal with that anyway.
>

Indeed.

> IMHO, if we want to detect this kind of sharing for future scheduling
> domains, it should probably be done independent of PPTT/DT/MIPDR by picking
> out shared cache levels from struct cacheinfo *. Which makes that change
> unrelated to the basic population of cacheinfo and cpu_topology in this
> patchset.
>

Sure, that's what I meant above. i.e. we need to depend on firmware(DT/ACPI)
rather than architected way(which doesn't exist anyways). Since cacheinfo
abstracts DT/ACPI, it sounds right to use that to fetch any information
on cache topology.

--
Regards,
Sudeep