Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 10:56:28 +0100
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
        syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)
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> On Thu, 2018-01-04 at 10:25 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> > > 
> > > Some of syzbot emails don't appear on LKML mailing lists, while they
> > > were mailed as any other emails. Here are few examples:
> > > 
> > > "KASAN: use-after-free Read in rds_tcp_dev_event"
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/syzkaller-bugs/nEeIAsNLWL4/1GzamOmRAwAJ
> > > 
> > > "general protection fault in __wake_up_common"
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/syzkaller-bugs/4TrrZ0bIViw/rBcYLUJHAgAJ
> > > 
> > > Does anybody know how to get in contact with real people behind LKML
> > > and/or bugzilla?
> > 
> > Not delivering syzbot emails might be good thing?
> 
> Nah, the thing is finding and reporting bugs just like a human would,
> it just doesn't need sleep etc, so sometimes reports more than humans
> can keep up with. ?It needs a smarter brother.. but then again, maybe
> not, if bots start fixing things too, a lot of meatware hackers would
> have to go find real jobs.

Sending random, unrepeatable Oopses to lkml is not what humans would
do, and perhaps not something bots should do, either.

> > You claimed you generate so many of them that you can't even check
> > them by hand, so what makes you think thousands of lkml readers want
> > to delete them by hand?
> 
> Mail filters have existed for untold ages :)

Yeah, well, spammers also existed for long long time :-).

									Pavel
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