Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268626AbTGTVqi (ORCPT ); Sun, 20 Jul 2003 17:46:38 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268644AbTGTVqi (ORCPT ); Sun, 20 Jul 2003 17:46:38 -0400 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]:39870 "EHLO main.gmane.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268626AbTGTVqg (ORCPT ); Sun, 20 Jul 2003 17:46:36 -0400 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Leandro_Guimar=E3es_Faria_Corsetti_Dutra?= Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] RMS and reactions to him Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 00:00:57 +0200 Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=20Fam=C3=ADlia?= Dutra Message-ID: References: <20030720193053.GA4213@mcgroarty.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: Pan/0.14.0 (I'm Being Nibbled to Death by Cats!) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2441 Lines: 49 On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 14:30:53 -0500, Brian McGroarty wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 04:42:00AM +0200, Leandro Guimar?es Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: >> >> He's not deciding, he's requesting. There is a difference, and there >> must be a reason why so many people get so incensed at such a simple, >> rational, reasonable request. > > The whole blowup over RMS requesting the GNU/Linux tag is that a lot > of folks think he's talking about the kernel, and not Linux > distributions. I doubt if it is so simple... there's the obvious personality crash, but I feel there's something more than just Larry piggybacking on free software and people feeling pressured by an ethical instance which makes their consciences hurt. Regarding Larry, his position must he hard, though: he knows he's toast if someone does to BK what Linus did to SysV, especially given how much he alienated principled GNU believers. Funny thing is that he was wiser ten years ago, when he proposed to free Solaris so as to get ahead of the free software game; now he just want to have his piece of cake and eat it too. Obviously he's entitled to it under the current system of government-granted private monopolies on artificial scarcity, AKA copyrights; it is just disconcentingly incoherent he chooses free software as a showroom... > Even many folks "in the know" seem to miss this distinction: RMS > hasn't ever asked that the kernel be called GNU/Linux. He asks that > "Linux distributions," which are called "Linux" by the public at > large, carry the extra tag. I know one shouldn't presume ill faith when incompetence suffices... but these issues have been hashed to death, and still people seem to hate RMS even more than they love their own confort. Kinda like it was said of the Left she would be more effective if she loved the poors as much as she hated the rich. Just here we're talking morals, not money. Asbestos up. -- _ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra +41 (21) 648 11 34 / \ http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ +41 (78) 778 11 34 \ / Answer to the list, not to me directly! +55 (11) 5686 2219 / \ Rate this if helpful: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=leandro - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/