Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753130AbeAFSya (ORCPT + 1 other); Sat, 6 Jan 2018 13:54:30 -0500 Received: from mail-oi0-f68.google.com ([209.85.218.68]:35278 "EHLO mail-oi0-f68.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752641AbeAFSy2 (ORCPT ); Sat, 6 Jan 2018 13:54:28 -0500 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBovV+ei+6I+vh9899jnRD4M+/t3ymimeaqsCgp9oKtTEoxYnB3rPVETJY6tC1tDK5x4bRu2N/t+LF37VFrTQZXc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180106183937.vkseldf4arkdlkum@ast-mbp> References: <151520099201.32271.4677179499894422956.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> <151520102670.32271.8447983009852138826.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> <20180106123242.77f4d860@alans-desktop> <20180106181331.mmrqwwbu2jcjj2si@ast-mbp> <20180106183937.vkseldf4arkdlkum@ast-mbp> From: Dan Williams Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 10:54:27 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/18] x86, barrier: stop speculation for failed access_ok To: Alexei Starovoitov Cc: Alan Cox , Linus Torvalds , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen , Arnd Bergmann , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Peter Zijlstra , Netdev , Ingo Molnar , "H. Peter Anvin" , Thomas Gleixner Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote: [..] >> retpoline is variant-2, this patch series is about variant-1. > > that's exactly the point. Don't slow down the kernel with lfences > to solve variant 1. retpoline for 2 is ok from long term kernel > viability perspective. > Setting aside that we still need to measure the impact of these changes the end result will still be nospec_array_ptr() sprinkled in various locations. So can we save the debate about what's inside that macro on various architectures and at least proceed with annotating the problematic locations? Perhaps we can go a step further and have a config option to switch between the clever array_access() approach from Linus that might be fine depending on the compiler, and the cpu-vendor-recommended not to speculate implementation of nospec_array_ptr().