Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S270682AbTGUTyt (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:54:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S270688AbTGUTyt (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:54:49 -0400 Received: from chaos.analogic.com ([204.178.40.224]:4736 "EHLO chaos.analogic.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S270682AbTGUTyq convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:54:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:09:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard B. Johnson" X-X-Sender: root@chaos Reply-To: root@chaos.analogic.com To: Diego Calleja =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Garc=EDa?= cc: Michael Bernstein , gmicsko@szintezis.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: SCO offers UnixWare licenses for Linux In-Reply-To: <20030721205940.7190f845.diegocg@teleline.es> Message-ID: References: <1058807414.513.4.camel@sunshine> <141DFFFA-BBA4-11D7-A61F-000A95773C00@seven-angels.net> <20030721205940.7190f845.diegocg@teleline.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3201 Lines: 65 On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Diego Calleja [ISO-8859-15] Garc?a wrote: > El Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:52:21 -0400 Michael Bernstein escribi?: > > > To put it simply, just because they "may," - and I say may here simply > > because we have no evidence to prove their claims but cannot flatly > > deny them - own the rights to Sys V, does NOT mean they own the right > > So they want to sell us something that still hasn't proved....cool. > No. They want to sell you something you already own. SCO is the owner of a non-exclusive license to a 30 year-old operating system. There are many others who have such a license including the University of California in Berkeley. Much of Linux was designed to interface with the API that they published, in a method that minimizes the changes to a 'C' runtime library. This made porting of various Unix utilities developed by the students at Berkeley, relatively easy. The actual Unix API used by Berkeley, was published by AT&T in December 1983. It is Called "Unix System V, Release 2.0, User Reference Manual Including BTL Computer Center Standard and Local Commands". I have a copy of that two volume ring-bound book. A "non-exclusive license" means that you you are not the only person who has been licensed. It's just that simple. In my opinion there is no way that SCO will ever convince any court that their version of "non-exclusive" is any different than all the others including, but not limited to, BSD, Digital, Interactive, Sun, IBM, Microsoft, Novell, etc. I have read the complaint and they allege that somebody must have stolen their secrets because nobody could make a version of Unix good enough for "the enterprise" without their secrets. So, they contend that they are the only people smart enough to write software for "the enterprise", whatever that is. Nice trick. Note that in the complaint against IBM, SCO seeks a jury trial. I guess they think it's easier to snow a jury than a judge. We'll see. I think SCO thinks juries are stupid and will treat them as David and Goliath. I think a jury will treat them like thieves, instead. It is instructive to read the annual reports, filed with the United States Security and Exchange Commission, by many of the companies that produce software. These reports are available on the "Web" and the various company's Web Pages usually have links to recent filings. A quote from a portion of Novel's 2002 Annual report goes like this; " The software industry is characterized by frequent litigation regarding copyright, patent, and other intellectual property rights." The fact that somebody sues somebody else in the Software Industry is kind of like having the sun rise in the East. You get to expect it. Now, back to writing some software that somebody may claim I stole............. Cheers, Dick Johnson Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips). Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/