Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755719AbeAIWUv (ORCPT + 1 other); Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:20:51 -0500 Received: from mail.skyhub.de ([5.9.137.197]:56928 "EHLO mail.skyhub.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753453AbeAIWUt (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:20:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 23:20:36 +0100 From: Borislav Petkov To: Willy Tarreau Cc: Andy Lutomirski , LKML , X86 ML , Brian Gerst , Dave Hansen , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds , Peter Zijlstra , Thomas Gleixner , Josh Poimboeuf , "H. Peter Anvin" , Kees Cook Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 2/6] x86/arch_prctl: add ARCH_GET_NOPTI and ARCH_SET_NOPTI to enable/disable PTI Message-ID: <20180109222036.6h7jjyaayusn4yb5@pd.tnic> References: <1515502580-12261-3-git-send-email-w@1wt.eu> <20180109141713.ngqrf6weyiy2q3in@pd.tnic> <20180109143653.GA12976@1wt.eu> <20180109145157.5ltqbz4o5sqkcggb@pd.tnic> <20180109145422.GD12976@1wt.eu> <20180109212940.ffvqb6wmehmxre4i@pd.tnic> <20180109213227.GA13282@1wt.eu> <20180109214602.k7cuxwikg6xshztu@pd.tnic> <20180109220605.GE13282@1wt.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180109220605.GE13282@1wt.eu> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170609 (1.8.3) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 11:06:05PM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote: > That's very simple : you first know you need more perf when you see the > name of your boss on your phone asking what's happening with the site Ok, lemme try to understand that: so you boot with PTI *enabled*, you don't know about the whole PTI fiasco and the performance impact it has because you obviously live on another planet, your boss calls you and *then* you start looking to increase performance and *then* you google and realize, shikes, you need to turn off PTI for a specific process. And rebooting is not an option. Oh, and you've built the kernel with the option to be able to disable PTI so it's not like you haven't seen it already. Sorry but I really really don't believe that is in any way close to reality. If it is, then this is the story of the sysadmin who, like an ostrich, kept his head in the sand. :-) -- Regards/Gruss, Boris. Good mailing practices for 400: avoid top-posting and trim the reply.