Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S270248AbTGWNpq (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:45:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S270324AbTGWNpp (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:45:45 -0400 Received: from 81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk ([81.2.122.30]:4992 "EHLO 81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S270248AbTGWNpe (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:45:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:08:57 +0100 From: John Bradford Message-Id: <200307231408.h6NE8vCV000217@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk> To: john@grabjohn.com, root@mauve.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: 2.4.22-pre7: are security issues solved? Cc: a.marsman@aYniK.com, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, davem@redhat.com, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1187 Lines: 33 > > > > If I know your password is 7 characters I have a smaller > > > > space of passwords to search to just brute-force it. > > > > > > It's much smaller if you didn't know that it was at most 7 characters > > > long. However, if you did know the upper bound, or you were just > > > brute forcing all passwords starting from 1 character, then the > > > difference is relatively minor. This is because > > > One time passwords are much more secure. > > Nope. > Changing password to a password of similar complexity every 10 seconds > doesn't make it much less likely to be guessed than a static password. For the attack in question, it does, as long as no two consecutive passwords have the same number of characters. For example, if the list of OTPs is: alpha beta epsilon The user logs in using the first password, and somebody logs that it has five characters. The next valid password, (the only valid one), has four. John. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/