Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S270009AbTGXTdR (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:33:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S270022AbTGXTdR (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:33:17 -0400 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]:41430 "EHLO main.gmane.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S270009AbTGXTdO (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:33:14 -0400 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Jan Rychter Subject: Re: Switching kernel from GPL Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:49:01 -0700 Message-ID: References: <200307241841.h6OIfvRn000613@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org X-Spammers-Please: blackholeme@rychter.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PJqDIh2FP1gL+1a6p6OVRCJOumY= Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 4131 Lines: 84 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> "John" =3D=3D John Bradford writes: John> There has been some discussion on the list about the possibility John> of getting parts and possibly eventually all of the kernel John> re-licensed under another license, which is in the same spirit as John> the GPL. John> Something to note is that even with the consent of all copyright John> holders, this may not be possible - there is at least one patent, John> (Read, Copy, Update), which is usable in GPL'ed code, but not John> necessarily in code covered by another license. That issue would John> need to be discussed with the patent holders. [...] I found it interesting that there was no mention of patents in these GPL discussions until now. The "anti-patent" clauses in the GPL and LGPL are quite possibly the biggest problem preventing the use of GPL'd software by commercial entities, much bigget than the "pass on the source and the rights" requirement. An excerpt from the GPL: 7. If, as a consequence of a court judgment or allegation of patent infringement or for any other reason (not limited to patent issues), conditions are imposed on you (whether by court order, agreement or otherwise) that contradict the conditions of this License, they do not excuse you from the conditions of this License. If you cannot distribute so as to satisfy simultaneously your obligations under this License and any other pertinent obligations, then as a consequence you may not distribute the Program at all. For example, if a patent license would not permit royalty-free redistribution of the Program by all those who receive copies directly or indirectly through you, then the only way you could satisfy both it and this License would be to refrain entirely from distribution of the Program. [...] 8. If the distribution and/or use of the Program is restricted in certain countries either by patents or by copyrighted interfaces, the original copyright holder who places the Program under this License may add an explicit geographical distribution limitation excluding those countries, so that distribution is permitted only in or among countries not thus excluded. In such case, this License incorporates the limitation as if written in the body of this License. As I understand it (and as my legal counsel advises me) this effectively means that if I distribute GPL code, I have to make sure that its distribution and re-distribution is not restricted by patents (or other reasons).=20 If the code in question contains parts which some patents lay claim to, restricting distribution, then I must not distribute the code at all. Furthermore, by distributing the code I breach the GPL and expose myself to legal threat of a lawsuit from the FSF. It is needless to mention that it is impossible to me to verify that no patents (worldwide!) lay claim to the code I'm distributing and impose restrictions upon its distribution. An example of a particularly clear case of this problem is the XviD code (http://www.xvid.org/), which is GPL-licensed. It seems to me that the authors (copyright holders, to be precise) may distribute the software under any license they choose, but nobody else is allowed to re-distribute it, because they would be violating section 7 of the GPL, as the MPEG-4 compression is (in some countries) covered by patents requiring royalties to be paid. This is an issue which is very often overlooked in the hot GPL debates. However, in the commercial world, it is possibly the most important one. =2D-J. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQA/IDgvLth4/7/QhDoRAiUhAJ4+62buUrNO0+rvAyaQ+kX/xwxeqACXV9GW 8pLqv3bUcTN33q6QvMkL6g== =T1v4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/