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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id s1si4943311pgp.577.2018.01.17.18.36.21; Wed, 17 Jan 2018 18:36:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753296AbeARCfx (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 17 Jan 2018 21:35:53 -0500 Received: from smtprelay0123.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.123]:39520 "EHLO smtprelay.hostedemail.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750931AbeARCfv (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Jan 2018 21:35:51 -0500 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (clb03-v110.bra.tucows.net [216.40.38.60]) by smtprelay02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA2E31EA5; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 02:35:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 6A6F6540706572636865732E636F6D X-Spam-Summary: 50,0,0,,d41d8cd98f00b204,joe@perches.com,:::::::::::::::::,RULES_HIT:41:355:379:541:599:967:968:973:988:989:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1373:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2525:2553:2560:2563:2682:2685:2828:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3352:3622:3698:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4321:4641:5007:9025:10004:10400:10848:11232:11658:11914:12043:12296:12740:12760:12895:13069:13161:13229:13255:13311:13357:13439:14096:14097:14181:14659:14721:21080:21433:21451:21627:30012:30030:30054:30090:30091,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0,LFtime:2,LUA_SUMMARY:none X-HE-Tag: meal57_8a223f9fe9f13 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 2634 Received: from XPS-9350 (unknown [47.151.150.235]) (Authenticated sender: joe@perches.com) by omf12.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 02:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1516242947.3045.66.camel@perches.com> Subject: Re: dangers of bots on the mailing lists was Re: divide error in ___bpf_prog_run From: Joe Perches To: Eric Biggers Cc: Theodore Ts'o , Alexei Starovoitov , Dmitry Vyukov , Daniel Borkmann , Pavel Machek , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 18:35:47 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20180118014645.66zlrz3bma6wc4xl@gmail.com> References: <001a11405130ff1e9705629eb53c@google.com> <20180117093225.GB20303@amd> <20180117204735.GC6948@thunk.org> <20180118002111.b7ejjd2adunmkooj@ast-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com> <20180118010930.GE6948@thunk.org> <1516238297.3045.62.camel@perches.com> <20180118014645.66zlrz3bma6wc4xl@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.26.1-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2018-01-17 at 17:46 -0800, Eric Biggers wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 05:18:17PM -0800, Joe Perches wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-01-17 at 20:09 -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > > get_maintainer.pl, which is often not accurate > > > > Examples please. > > > > Well, the primary problem is that place the crash occurs is not necessarily > responsible for the bug. But, syzbot actually does have a file blacklist for > exactly that reason; see > https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/pkg/report/linux.go#L56 Which has no association to a problem with get_maintainer. > And yes, get_maintainer.pl sometimes isn't accurate even if the offending code > is correctly identified. That's more of a community problem, e.g. people > sometimes don't bother to remove themselves from MAINTAINERS when they quit > maintaining, and sometimes people don't feel responsible enough for a file to > add themselves to MAINTAINERS, even when in practice they are actually taking > most of the patches to it through their tree. Yup, not a get_maintainer problem. There are more than 1800 sections and more than 1200 individual names in the MAINTAINERS file. In practice, there are a few dozen maintainers that are upstream patch paths.