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Date:   Sat, 20 Jan 2018 00:26:19 +0800
From:   Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To:     Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] blk-mq: fixup RESTART when queue becomes idle
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On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 09:19:24AM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 1/19/18 9:05 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 08:48:55AM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >> On 1/19/18 8:40 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
> >>>>>> Where does the dm STS_RESOURCE error usually come from - what's exact
> >>>>>> resource are we running out of?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is from blk_get_request(underlying queue), see
> >>>>> multipath_clone_and_map().
> >>>>
> >>>> That's what I thought. So for a low queue depth underlying queue, it's
> >>>> quite possible that this situation can happen. Two potential solutions
> >>>> I see:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) As described earlier in this thread, having a mechanism for being
> >>>>    notified when the scarce resource becomes available. It would not
> >>>>    be hard to tap into the existing sbitmap wait queue for that.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) Have dm set BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING and just sleep on the resource
> >>>>    allocation. I haven't read the dm code to know if this is a
> >>>>    possibility or not.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd probably prefer #1. It's a classic case of trying to get the
> >>>> request, and if it fails, add ourselves to the sbitmap tag wait
> >>>> queue head, retry, and bail if that also fails. Connecting the
> >>>> scarce resource and the consumer is the only way to really fix
> >>>> this, without bogus arbitrary delays.
> >>>
> >>> Right, as I have replied to Bart, using mod_delayed_work_on() with
> >>> returning BLK_STS_NO_DEV_RESOURCE(or sort of name) for the scarce
> >>> resource should fix this issue.
> >>
> >> It'll fix the forever stall, but it won't really fix it, as we'll slow
> >> down the dm device by some random amount.
> >>
> >> A simple test case would be to have a null_blk device with a queue depth
> >> of one, and dm on top of that. Start a fio job that runs two jobs: one
> >> that does IO to the underlying device, and one that does IO to the dm
> >> device. If the job on the dm device runs substantially slower than the
> >> one to the underlying device, then the problem isn't really fixed.
> > 
> > I remembered that I tried this test on scsi-debug & dm-mpath over scsi-debug,
> > seems not observed this issue, could you explain a bit why IO over dm-mpath
> > may be slower? Because both two IO contexts call same get_request(), and
> > in theory dm-mpath should be a bit quicker since it uses direct issue for
> > underlying queue, without io scheduler involved.
> 
> Because if you lose the race for getting the request, you'll have some
> arbitrary delay before trying again, potentially. Compared to the direct

But the restart still works, one request is completed, then the queue
is return immediately because we use mod_delayed_work_on(0), so looks
no such issue.


-- 
Ming