Received: by 10.223.176.46 with SMTP id f43csp2824095wra; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 04:07:14 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x227TCsweOgVKBCb/hjf1Lv8u38R+ZZ1fdglLSqCQFfMrUPdGcwWnCYzVlt7Ps6WB0GslnYui X-Received: by 10.98.131.200 with SMTP id h191mr8230197pfe.149.1516622834591; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 04:07:14 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1516622834; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=y1yJfoo+GBM9JzgqsbylQyw91PXZ5ZSqLlnAR79p+rUxEI3FLAurH5kHhxeF6Jl/ph Ndah9sLbu03hMnaZgkH5VJZLT7gOGPw74H1JlpH4LsrVoRC/6GhdJyro8YxIe/z/3i4M FNBtAMUX9SDJHTHzIIgFHf+ZZ7j3P27cVciMwVk1NBkv9egd13qg+SBYI3RDdOo36mwy O07DsCZNj/krPEHEakLyTvm9gjr7h0uuL3M7jQzjwT6gF0nUfW/F4qz5ZvQUIPLi6XD+ V9d6tvaEHyDBlc2XJ8BEWTMUgykK4f1WOrreRxJVTSRjb2RcMXibU0d2oH+hb3JHV4tz t95A== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:mime-version :references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date :arc-authentication-results; bh=3l6pTz6sa7YkiQGUT802xlGSVGsYF16KTrtRFVG9miw=; b=D86pRWwc4E9iNs15zALw0YQqJAKV7PGM9YsfT3pyhgD1sfvzfiQCzum82dfeN0mCLI puugxFOl8+Tlg5sWnWfwnFmgLR10HmnvGU8zN/gBWM1kG7MByP0aDZVBieiG4JpgB4Pm pj9kZZFKA1pBUo8RvbaAVzWN7okSC3YOxhu6s5mTZPhIuje6EdU+Ww0kJiFEZ567Guvd QN/gohXzw5g7qXYwlt3n+iJ2FzXq3IBaHhmZsmhIT7bsg4XcpX7zqj2TTD2LIjAhFYIm LBn+6ffrnIA8ZHWjA+WWG9A+hN4VkKdNlM2Sy4GKbUCx9ooMsCo0OPbg8SJi8/fu4QlD sctg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d81si87679pfm.320.2018.01.22.04.07.00; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 04:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751181AbeAVMG0 (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 22 Jan 2018 07:06:26 -0500 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:33402 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750890AbeAVMGY (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Jan 2018 07:06:24 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay2.suse.de (charybdis-ext.suse.de [195.135.220.254]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CD9AD1C; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:06:18 +0100 From: Borislav Petkov To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Thomas Gleixner , KarimAllah Ahmed , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen , Andrea Arcangeli , Andy Lutomirski , Arjan van de Ven , Ashok Raj , Asit Mallick , Dan Williams , Dave Hansen , David Woodhouse , Greg Kroah-Hartman , "H . Peter Anvin" , Ingo Molnar , Janakarajan Natarajan , Joerg Roedel , Jun Nakajima , Laura Abbott , Linus Torvalds , Masami Hiramatsu , Paolo Bonzini , Radim =?utf-8?B?S3LEjW3DocWZ?= , Tim Chen , Tom Lendacky , kvm@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC 05/10] x86/speculation: Add basic IBRS support infrastructure Message-ID: <20180122120617.32jwptg6it32p4do@pd.tnic> References: <1516476182-5153-1-git-send-email-karahmed@amazon.de> <1516476182-5153-6-git-send-email-karahmed@amazon.de> <20180121145655.ddme3w6kzxthu6al@pd.tnic> <20180122095153.GB2228@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20180122095153.GB2228@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170609 (1.8.3) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 10:51:53AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > That wouldn't be enough; AFAIU there's people with this stuff already > flashed in their BIOS. So the kernel needs to deal with it one way or > another. Not a lot we can do there except maybe disable IBRS on those and users can go and complain to their BIOS vendor to give them a downgrade or they can downgrade themselves. If we had free BIOS, this would've been a whole different story... -- Regards/Gruss, Boris. SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) --