Received: by 10.223.176.46 with SMTP id f43csp4271692wra; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 07:01:13 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x227BbeokbLdL4Y0SX4WDLLNhylWVJQ/v8Dpows15ZAnAkW2TqszNnpnRKziwGuCBJhakiuzP X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:7f0b:: with SMTP id d11-v6mr1758209plm.70.1516719673258; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 07:01:13 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1516719673; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=bZ56ZXCHfuu7TJOS7Xi4/lvVkm9OjOqclE1KTdIGNA+40oiqEeTe8AFZZHzOt0Rb0K lPOKcYbNnwMyX/WHQFbi1N12wGAapfdq4xsUOrNe/EMfGIT7m1vg41M7JnMctTzQUT8f 2wz/mclzlj2ZRMtF6vi+Ck7GxynD0zD1n/XCBzn7i2zgZQYXcprS4X6J5BbWzm4IduYx nW5MH3aJ5+vkrdmOdtb24KR4/l9Lsh4LfEaApeO/zRJd/wzKUXR/m8hFBVFo57CG+9tG FxMr3t1lDiCk5BUvTJaVJNWk95uKqUyKp2Ovj/luUY4FjCy/+6PWMgt32I69rT7RjJkb 58Yg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :organization:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from :date:arc-authentication-results; bh=LhaFw1qDqOCaDhvdJJZqLnldLcAFP/mRmwOQbE6b/0o=; b=O/0A2/kusw16G6tZ2ZnadXClbB9eDA7miDnDwmR2B9VT2bRFklbiJckJyUH1CsWSpO cVcmk/lECfqJ3lMBzyvfBoNcLVyk5GggcndipN3k1CDpN60OxRVgUi+FryK5KjuoOw38 bfSLKnN80ZgibHRX5EpcDyzRtFrrCrQH8adLJfzHhXh2KnGiSGCADRgTVij74X62yTNk N8xjVX3s+8ph+554uVcDo6ORTUeRy848JQM0zx7Z87EqK8PtxZx8qoshiCAo1VYDqPcs Ruu2MVwFXUWuptphu2PEHAYubQPH4QyOeOKutewqgZ0nyU5lcUTFWAFdUy7d+6ibws3p lN9A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id m9-v6si4868488plk.486.2018.01.23.07.00.58; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 07:01:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752102AbeAWO74 (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 23 Jan 2018 09:59:56 -0500 Received: from www.llwyncelyn.cymru ([82.70.14.225]:56870 "EHLO fuzix.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751937AbeAWO7z (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Jan 2018 09:59:55 -0500 Received: from alans-desktop (82-70-14-226.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.70.14.226]) by fuzix.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w0NEvHPu012635; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:57:17 GMT Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:57:17 +0000 From: Alan Cox To: Joerg Roedel Cc: Nadav Amit , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , "H . Peter Anvin" , the arch/x86 maintainers , LKML , "open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" , Linus Torvalds , Andy Lutomirski , Dave Hansen , Josh Poimboeuf , Juergen Gross , Peter Zijlstra , Borislav Petkov , Jiri Kosina , Boris Ostrovsky , Brian Gerst , David Laight , Denys Vlasenko , Eduardo Valentin , Greg KH , Will Deacon , aliguori@amazon.com, daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at, hughd@google.com, keescook@google.com, Andrea Arcangeli , Waiman Long , jroedel@suse.de Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/16] PTI support for x86-32 Message-ID: <20180123145717.75c84e9a@alans-desktop> In-Reply-To: <20180122085625.GE28161@8bytes.org> References: <1516120619-1159-1-git-send-email-joro@8bytes.org> <5D89F55C-902A-4464-A64E-7157FF55FAD0@gmail.com> <886C924D-668F-4007-98CA-555DB6279E4F@gmail.com> <9CF1DD34-7C66-4F11-856D-B5E896988E16@gmail.com> <20180122085625.GE28161@8bytes.org> Organization: Intel Corporation X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.1-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:56:25 +0100 Joerg Roedel wrote: > Hey Nadav, > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 03:46:24PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote: > > It does seem that segmentation provides sufficient protection from Meltdown. > > Thanks for testing this, if this turns out to be true for all affected > uarchs it would be a great and better way of protection than enabling > PTI. > > But I'd like an official statement from Intel on that one, as their > recommended fix is still to use PTI. > > And as you said, if it turns out that this works only on some Intel > uarchs, we can also detect it at runtime and then chose the fasted > meltdown protection mechanism. I'll follow this up and get an official statement. Alan