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Tsirkin" Cc: Paolo Bonzini , =?UTF-8?B?UmFkaW0gS3LEjW3DocWZ?= , Liran Alon , vkuznets@redhat.com, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org References: <6690c53c-fc99-44ea-9090-6e7438c1bc98@default> <20180125141620.GA7663@flask> <2039380511.2539348.1516891762406.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <20180125185431-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20180126044919-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> From: Jason Wang Message-ID: <8170a43b-7c7a-ef61-7a53-a5495fc8c6fd@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:21:27 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180126044919-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.11 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.31]); Fri, 26 Jan 2018 03:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2018年01月26日 10:49, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 10:41:58AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote: >> >> On 2018年01月26日 01:11, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 09:49:22AM -0500, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >>>>>> Michael and Jason, any progress on implementing a fast virtio mechanism >>>>>> that doesn't rely on undefined behavior? >>>>>> >>>>>> (Encode writing instruction length into last 4 bits of MMIO address, >>>>>> side-channel say that accesses to the MMIO area always use certain >>>>>> instruction length, use hypercall, ...) >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>> No progress from my side. But we can use PIO for virtio 1.0 and it's >>>>> faster than fast MMIO (qemu supports modern pio notification bar, we can >>>>> make it as default). It looks to me that neither encoding nor hypercall >>>>> will work for real hardware virtio device. >>>> Encoding the instruction length would work, the h/w virtio devices would >>>> just ignore it. But... it is really ugly. >>>> >>>> Using PIO would be a small step backwards for PCIe. As long as the device >>>> only needs *one* notification register (either MMIO or PIO) to initialize >>>> successfully, it's okay. Then if there is no PIO space you'd just fall back >>>> to the slower MMIO notification. >>>> >>>> Paolo >>> A bigger issue for PIO is it's causing exits for hw devices. >>> >>> >> Just to make sure I understand. For exits you mean vmexit? I believe MMIO >> will cause vmexit too. >> >> Thanks > Not with an assigned device where the PTE is marked as present, it > won't. > So in this case, assigned device can just provide MMIO bar. Thanks