Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S271080AbTG1Uwt (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:52:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S271065AbTG1UwF (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:52:05 -0400 Received: from zork.zork.net ([64.81.246.102]:16277 "EHLO zork.zork.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S271067AbTG1Uvb (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:51:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:50:57 -0700 From: Nick Moffitt To: Sean Estabrooks Cc: Christoph Hellwig , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Bug 999] New: Problem with the /dev/ptmx file Message-ID: <20030728205057.GB5115@zork.net> Mail-Followup-To: Sean Estabrooks , Christoph Hellwig , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <3897970000.1059421161@[10.10.2.4]> <20030728205501.A26278@infradead.org> <123101c35544$1b382fb0$7f0a0a0a@lappy7> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <123101c35544$1b382fb0$7f0a0a0a@lappy7> X-Fnord: +++ath X-WebTV-Stationery: Standard; BGColor=black; TextColor=black Reply-By: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:21:08 -0700 X-Message-Flag: OUTLOOK ERROR: Message text violates P.A.T.R.I.O.T. act User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1248 Lines: 34 begin Sean Estabrooks quotation: > > But if he insists in the crappy bugzilla interface instead of lkml > > I won't tell him. [...] > What's your objection to bugzilla? It's not perfect but it does > seem better than the list alone to track a bug. http://bugs.xiph.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245 Bug systems should make it easy to file, and quick to triage. The costs for entering a new bug should be low. Forcing people to set up user accounts when NO BUGS WILL EVER BE ASSIGNED TO THEM is just poor design. Bugzilla is a relic of a system where all the users (including testers) are employees, and are assumed to have credentials in the system already. It does not handle well the zillions of casual bug detections by end users. If you've got an in-house QA department, it may suit them just fine. Just don't expect every net.random to start using it and not kvetch gargargar at you when the warts show through. Also, the BACK BUTTON for krissakes! -- end Support your droogs! - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/