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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id s24si1254060pfe.226.2018.02.10.10.31.38; Sat, 10 Feb 2018 10:31:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=QUARANTINE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=sourceforge.net Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751695AbeBJSa7 (ORCPT + 99 others); Sat, 10 Feb 2018 13:30:59 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:54683 "EHLO mout.web.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750835AbeBJSa5 (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Feb 2018 13:30:57 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([78.53.150.195]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb001 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LtFEp-1eqW2R1axP-012r3K; Sat, 10 Feb 2018 19:30:20 +0100 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Software_evolution_around_=e2=80=9ccheckpatch.pl?= =?UTF-8?B?4oCdPw==?= To: Joe Perches , Jonathan Cameron , linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org Cc: Jonathan Cameron , Hartmut Knaack , Jiri Kosina , Lars-Peter Clausen , Peter Meerwald-Stadler , Srinivas Pandruvada , LKML , kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org References: <0406765c-bdd1-1a82-cf66-1c248063ae4f@users.sourceforge.net> <20180204112346.0977e938@archlinux> <9420fc82-1a37-3601-bafe-f57ef953bfcd@users.sourceforge.net> <87DF341A-1356-4B1B-8D25-14D5B0AAB01D@jic23.retrosnub.co.uk> <20180210145336.233c721d@archlinux> <1518274783.6579.2.camel@perches.com> <20180210155734.708d01b6@archlinux> <1518284577.16865.8.camel@perches.com> From: SF Markus Elfring Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 19:30:15 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1518284577.16865.8.camel@perches.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:ukKuZ6dpicrWlKvzP+w4SDpgbaribzlPhRKe3WxztY4YduvmXGv PKEg1LEQFL/vtME+Fpi2+SYn2m7yDWKPUJztHTfvjJ2wzXPHy3EHq8xNOORPBlcEzY6NrtR nn3cB7MV1ZRl0CaBLS0MlU4dIFN1JuOwQviUFaqbPEnB+ZcTb+0Iz/z2WnaVpzM8n1UXQbq NYEK5sV6eCQ+5OwUmqvnw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:PdTvA8ZM3uc=:8Hyn8oMvXIkAtBP7Cty3RD ISwppgBOYOSjsKqpg1ROtypHhPehYS9sCpaW3zWKqor+kKOcCtB5hSBZ1Es4SjAlYMihkDiE+ I1+jlovwYRZnpBJZgsBqGW6jMe3RzaWsUsgt8c9K5MyrDFjXlTKDdBTYdcQRZPnTa/C/mqBs9 QJKI9Mr7N9goBRoZyKNWnVQDaCn8PkCL8vN8RDMwjzkzkYLsG2hPYYhqZT231CseJO9pABsFR Lbs1okqQ9FSBiRXk6O2E8TjK1SzaEj+DUYwE7pGoSDKS4SGYXs3MldU7h4yRfxSHaQX1KXxP4 o42reNpuoXXZpYncmQC988gAfQEyLACDF/FyJThzLYZallFFLoJLOr0BZGjUyIgA8yYCTeKR7 D/8z9WtQoFh1o7g1MI3l1t+fJXolgKAEj5hNbWdPpkVYXgg4qKG/ZgT/Hb99oo6Nyyv9futQw htdjvGOyyw9/htvjUKPYrMFXGdeYHGLQRSO0EGN1h5kDfYmwzBRqtODcs6/8yS7bCepZmEACW TNcVUryurnP+/+qs5TAFyHiIZPKJSPZuEAiBVXPgN3jUQdLx1Ev5NvuPE+/wFVGFA5kjKCyM/ oib03AqWAYYBThOq16jM70k7SJwS7LLTiDnpiEA2RBjRx33YQPxQ3x12cjJF8aZPW+rZ+oAy5 Z5YBa6iXbzzV+pzBYOD8AzqV7YZIol+jQx2kv4HpylJtRavKEt0Xf9yIDtJDhcJrUb37pH4xu MEMbJwd2+Vs7PbQiWc3z3/II88OIW9HKKxgOxUTcPUzqqZqMapikZ9HfJpfvNTOQrizX2cJKV 3UoPvKBe9bX2a9FwPWDS1UQiUwJgyIZC90ctG1qBDKbugUTvtg= Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >> So I think checkpatch is striking the right balance here in >> how it warns. Obviously if it could assess the text >> and come to an informed decision that would be great but >> we are some way from that ;) > > The 'informed' bit is difficult as it is mostly a political problem. I find such a view very interesting. > I just wish Markus would improve his consistently terrible commit messages I tried to achieve another clarification a few times. > that just restate the action being done and detail > _why_ a particular thing _should_ be done. Unfortunately, it seems that no other contributors picked corresponding opportunities up so far. You indicated also special software development challenges in your commit “checkpatch: attempt to find unnecessary 'out of memory' messages”. https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/6/10/382 https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=ebfdc40969f24fc0cdd1349835d36e8ebae05374 > His acceptance rate would improve as many of these back and forth > replies for what trivialities he posts as patches would be minimized. My selection of change possibilities leads to mixed integration results. I stumbled on variations for general change resistance. Regards, Markus