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Peter Anvin" , X86 ML , LKML , Linux-MM , Dave Hansen , Josh Poimboeuf , Juergen Gross , Peter Zijlstra , Borislav Petkov , Jiri Kosina , Boris Ostrovsky , Brian Gerst , David Laight , Denys Vlasenko , Eduardo Valentin , Greg KH , Will Deacon , "Liguori, Anthony" , Daniel Gruss , Hugh Dickins , Kees Cook , Andrea Arcangeli , Waiman Long , Pavel Machek Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > At the risk of suggesting heresy, should we consider removing x86_32 support at some point? Maybe in five or ten years. Not in the near future, I'm afraid. We removed support for the 80386 back at the end of 2012. At that point it just became too painful to support at all. In contrast, we could continue supporting 32-bit for a long time. Even if it might be in some degraded form (ie no PTI at all, or only a slow one). It's not really a lot of pain for people who don't care. Linus