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From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Date:   Sun, 11 Feb 2018 13:50:02 -0800
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/7] kconfig: support new special property shell=
To:     Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
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On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>>
>> In my tests last year, I identified gcc-4.6 as a nice minimum level, IIRC
>> gcc-4.5 was unable to build some of the newer ARM targets.
>
> But yes, if Linus wants 4.5 over 4.3, I would agree with Arnd: let's
> take it to 4.6 instead.

So it sounds like Arnd knows what the distros have.

Because I think that would actually be the best way to try to
determine where we want to go, because it's what is going to determine
what is most problematic for _users_.

If no distro is on 4.5, then there's no reason to pick that. The
reason I mentioned 4.5 is because that's the "asm goto" point, afaik,
and that is likely to be a requirement in the near future.

If SLES11 is 4.3, that's obviously a concern. Although Arnd seemed to
imply that that had already caused problems, so...

            Linus