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See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --=-G/PIQONl/hxYl2UfxICs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2018-02-11 at 20:43 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > And should these say 'Spectre v2' not just 'Spectre'? >=20 > Yeah, you are probably right, but I didn't want to make the messages too = specific=C2=A0 > - do we really know that this is the end of Spectre-style speculation hol= es? Well... if a new problem is also remedied by use if IBRS/IBPB and retpoline, I think we can happily call it a subclass of "Spectre v2". And if it *isn't* addressed by those same things, then it's clearly something different. Either way, these messages should be 'v2', no? 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