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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l63-v6si6300587plb.565.2018.02.12.13.38.00; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:38:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=fail header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=D8/MZHH1; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932497AbeBLVhI (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 12 Feb 2018 16:37:08 -0500 Received: from mail-io0-f181.google.com ([209.85.223.181]:44100 "EHLO mail-io0-f181.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932204AbeBLVhG (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Feb 2018 16:37:06 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-f181.google.com with SMTP id z6so18911482iob.11; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:37:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=CInzmcyBsvG91oBlhAaFqXVNJO0bmZxikj2QJEY/qsc=; b=D8/MZHH1+uobKtG8rL3QvdJhDT3iohxilz8HPqOsHx8ciFFM6zxcPloUUraqZ0H6Az o0nWnjW1Aq3+2I57ZQ5PZd4XNR7GDkznMUOMAe1xp1IdzNdqnVJcMLG19/EyEtG7u2Q+ z6v4EHBLNbauT/gjOS7Y6BdhNLZ3tMBBhEe3WY0Zz7IBsPgfP2TPa+MXwhCs1zy4uqDB SArtbcDugItjjsa0qui8x2fGEtLw/svv3dTebc3uiyjoQltyVk9Eyeq1ajbgPhNxtISb 4yZ46cEgtyLGa4apxEROrdLcuLVkRawzLvo8i6fRyCKjV1Gkfvp4dbkbfK4irhGdGVJN It6Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CInzmcyBsvG91oBlhAaFqXVNJO0bmZxikj2QJEY/qsc=; b=RElkMCa928yxzx+KzvRoEMGrJROovPmtQPoZzAeXoyKk/AmGTTiRQLjuD0lJleTszu SgQ9Leg6XgB+oWdjvTQDVKvBZAfS4fOyHvEZusUxNrV3Z3Jyha/s33L2wTKeyLqJVqcE rurr3rJ1Z93VgeUkibzFMrEMOHAjac4vj6C0z62lpnHx8JkzXX7LAH1hJXOCt4pe3Kpd RtxjuZTDxz11IUrAGi/agsguMjwZgHFv1Md1xRJHnOA+YiIIXVcsWXzkRTwG5aW/QchB w5sLfxAl/fQ7IsFdpy3Uk0WaMucSaLI17nKFBYUMncbO6KFMGUPX9oLQsSOZHZbKLg0n 25Zg== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPABPZVXgyuDMtlTkM5+3aX+TPLk0yjrxdTYSQkA4NsgcU4m7AWN Nx0FO5X5jKNlkpkvfpU3PG0bgsdh+DC3cSDgxmg= X-Received: by 10.107.132.18 with SMTP id g18mr3264709iod.46.1518471425227; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:37:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.135.221 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:37:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20180213080036.3bf3a908@canb.auug.org.au> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:37:04 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yZypYrjvgTauC04HjSreCF1XlgE Message-ID: Subject: Re: linux-next: unnecessary merge in the v4l-dvb tree To: Stephen Rothwell , Junio C Hamano Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Linux-Next Mailing List , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Git Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > The reasoning is to avoid losing the signature from the tag (when > merging a signed tag, the signature gets inserted into the merge > commit itself - use "git log --show-signature" to see them). I think the commit that actually introduced the behavior was fab47d057: merge: force edit and no-ff mode when merging a tag object back in 2011, so we've had this behavior for a long time. So it's probably not be worth tweaking the behavior any more, and maybe we need to educate people to not update to other peoples state with "git pull". Maybe we could just tell people to have something like git config --global alias.update pull --ff-only and use that for "try to update to upstream". Linus