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From:   Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To:     Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc:     Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] libnvdimm: re-enable deep flush for pmem devices
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Date:   Tue, 13 Feb 2018 08:17:38 -0500
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        (Dan Williams's message of "Mon, 12 Feb 2018 15:05:10 -0800")
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Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> writes:

> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com> writes:
>>
>>> Re-enable deep flush so that users always have a way to be sure that a write
>>> does make it all the way out to the NVDIMM. The PMEM driver writes always
>>> make it "all the way to the NVDIMM", and it relies on the ADR mechanism to
>>> flush the write buffers on power failure. Deep flush is there to explicitly
>>> flush those write buffers to protect against (rare) ADR failure.
>>> This change prevents a regression in deep flush behavior so that applications
>>> can continue to depend on fsync() as a mechanism to trigger deep flush in the
>>> filesystem-dax case.
>>
>> That's still very confusing text.  Specifically, the part where you say
>> that pmem driver writes always make it to the DIMM.  I think the
>> changelog could start with "Deep flush is there to explicitly flush
>> write buffers...."  Anyway, the fix looks right to me.
>
> I ended up changing the commit message to this, let me know if it reads better:

Thanks.  It's still unclear to me what the text, "The PMEM driver writes
always arrive at the NVDIMM" means.  However, it's good enough.

Thanks!
Jeff

>
>     libnvdimm: re-enable deep flush for pmem devices via fsync()
>
>     Re-enable deep flush so that users always have a way to be sure that a
>     write makes it all the way out to media. The PMEM driver writes always
>     arrive at the NVDIMM, and it relies on the ADR (Asynchronous DRAM
>     Refresh) mechanism to flush the write buffers on power failure. Deep
>     flush is there to explicitly flush those write buffers to protect
>     against (rare) ADR failure.  This change prevents a regression in deep
>     flush behavior so that applications can continue to depend on fsync() as
>     a mechanism to trigger deep flush in the filesystem-DAX case.
>
>     Fixes: 06e8ccdab15f4 ("acpi: nfit: Add support for detect platform
> CPU cache...")
>     Signed-off-by: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
>     Signed-off-by: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>