Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:46:54 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:46:44 -0500 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]:9989 "EHLO mailout04.sul.t-online.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:46:38 -0500 Date: 09 Mar 2001 20:16:00 +0200 From: kaih@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen) To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <7xWQFvVHw-B@khms.westfalen.de> In-Reply-To: <3AA7DFCD.1000502@trustix.com> Subject: Re: Microsoft begining to open source Windows 2000? X-Mailer: CrossPoint v3.12d.kh5 R/C435 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Organisation? Me?! Are you kidding? In-Reply-To: <1355693A51C0D211B55A00105ACCFE64E952C3@ATL_MS1> <3AA7DFCD.1000502@trustix.com> X-No-Junk-Mail: I do not want to get *any* junk mail. Comment: Unsolicited commercial mail will incur an US$100 handling fee per received mail. X-Fix-Your-Modem: +++ATS2=255&WO1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org larsg@trustix.com (Lars Gaarden) wrote on 08.03.01 in <3AA7DFCD.1000502@trustix.com>: > Venkatesh Ramamurthy wrote: > > > Please check out this article. Looks like microsoft know open source is > > the thing of the future. I would consider that it is a begining step for > > full blown GPL!!!! > > > > http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/main/0,10228,2692987,00.html > > I'm not so sure about that. It is going to be heavily NDA'ed > and look-but-not-touch. > > Enterprise customers are beginning to see the value of having > source available, and MS is doing this as a half-baked > solution to give decition makers one less reason for switching > to Open Source. And remember that other companies have been doing similar things since just about forever. It's not as if MS invented this thing. Or maybe I have to take that back. The "must not modify" clause certainly seems non-standard. AT&T Unix source didn't carry a "must not modify" rider. IBM's big iron OS source certainly didn't carry a "must not modify" rider. In fact, making modifications was very much the *point* of this excercise. Yet again. Microsoft is copying something yet failing to realize the point. Am I surprised? Nope. > This also gives MS an opportunity to do PR. Expect some "We > provide our customers with the good benefits of Open Source > without the danger of fragmentation and market confusion" from > their marketroids soon. Which is, of course, the exact opposite of what they _are_ doing. > Compare this to the release of W98SE. The main reason for SE was > to stop home users being introduced to Linux because of ipmasq'ing. That's a new one for me. I certainly never heard an argument for SE that was even remotely in that area. > You can accuse MS of a lot of things. Being stupid and ignorant > of the market is not one of them. I'm not so sure about that. If they really did, why would they need to resort to unfair tactics so often? It's not as if a 1000 pound gorilla couldn't easily survive a fair fight, if he wasn't a complete idiot. MfG Kai - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/