Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S270324AbTHBVBs (ORCPT ); Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:01:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S270346AbTHBVBr (ORCPT ); Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:01:47 -0400 Received: from pc1-cwma1-5-cust4.swan.cable.ntl.com ([80.5.120.4]:62866 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S270324AbTHBVBq (ORCPT ); Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:01:46 -0400 Subject: Re: TOE brain dump From: Alan Cox To: Werner Almesberger Cc: netdev@oss.sgi.com, Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20030802140444.E5798@almesberger.net> References: <20030802140444.E5798@almesberger.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Message-Id: <1059857864.20305.14.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 02 Aug 2003 21:57:44 +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1271 Lines: 33 On Sad, 2003-08-02 at 18:04, Werner Almesberger wrote: > - last but not least, keeping TOE firmware up to date with the > TCP/IP stack in the mainstream kernel will require - for each > such TOE device - a significant and continuous effort over a > long period of time or even the protocol and protocol refinements.. > - instead of putting a different stack on the TOE, a > general-purpose processor (probably with some enhancements, > and certainly with optimized data paths) is added to the NIC Like say an opteron in the 2nd socket on the motherboard > Benefits: > > - putting the CPU next to the NIC keeps data paths short, and > allows for all kinds of optimizations (e.g. a pipelined > memory architecture) It moves the cost it doesnt make it vanish If I read you right you are arguing for a second processor running Linux.with its own independant memory bus. AMD make those already its called AMD64. I don't know anyone thinking at that level about partitioning one as an I/O processor. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/