Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:49:24 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:49:14 -0500 Received: from [203.169.151.222] ([203.169.151.222]:30733 "EHLO main.coppice.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:49:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3AA9A461.19378DE@coppice.org> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:49:53 +0800 From: Steve Underwood Organization: Me? Organised? X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, zh-TW MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Microsoft begining to open source Windows 2000? In-Reply-To: <1355693A51C0D211B55A00105ACCFE64E952C3@ATL_MS1> <3AA7DFCD.1000502@trustix.com> <7xWQFvVHw-B@khms.westfalen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org larsg@trustix.com (Lars Gaarden) wrote on 08.03.01 in <3AA7DFCD.1000502@trustix.com>: > You can accuse MS of a lot of things. Being stupid and ignorant > of the market is not one of them. I'd have to disagree there. In the mid 80's MS had never had a really successful applications product, even though Word, Excel and others had been around for some time. The market leaders, like 123, were mostly copy protected with schemes (e.g. key floppies) that were annoying to legitimate customers, but hardly affected pirates. MS woke up to the opportunity, made a splash about how their products were not protected, and their applications market share soared. Windows, and a packaged (if far from integrated) office suite just finished the job of killing the competitors. You can genuinely say a measured level of openness was the key to their success. If 123 and others had reacted earlier, and removed their protection schemes, MS might not be as dominant as it is today. With the momentum that gave them, and a few dirty tricks, MS have never looked back (though they don't often look very far forward, either). Now MS is loosing sight of this. How long will it be before their increasingly restrictive tactics backfire and kill them as surely as dumb copy protection killed 123's 90% market share? Maybe they will take care to only put restrictions were they don't hurt day to day usefulness (i.e. don't piss off the user) - maybe they won't. What we hear of Whistler suggests the latter. The only survivors in this industry are HP and IBM, and even they are mere shells of their former selves! Regards, Steve - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/