Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S272554AbTHFVR3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Aug 2003 17:17:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S272570AbTHFVR3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Aug 2003 17:17:29 -0400 Received: from fw.osdl.org ([65.172.181.6]:4993 "EHLO mail.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S272554AbTHFVR2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Aug 2003 17:17:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:19:05 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Mike Fedyk Cc: diegocg@teleline.es, reiser@namesys.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com Subject: Re: Filesystem Tests Message-Id: <20030806141905.40126313.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20030806180427.GC21290@matchmail.com> References: <3F306858.1040202@mrs.umn.edu> <20030805224152.528f2244.akpm@osdl.org> <3F310B6D.6010608@namesys.com> <20030806183410.49edfa89.diegocg@teleline.es> <20030806180427.GC21290@matchmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1226 Lines: 30 Mike Fedyk wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 06:34:10PM +0200, Diego Calleja Garc?a wrote: > > El Wed, 06 Aug 2003 18:06:37 +0400 Hans Reiser escribi?: > > > > > I don't think ext2 is a serious option for servers of the sort that > > > Linux specializes in, which is probably why he didn't measure it. > > > > Why? > > Because if you have a power outage, or a crash, you have to run the > filesystem check tools on it or risk damaging it further. > > Journaled filesystems have a much smaller chance of having problems after a > crash. Journalled filesytems have a runtime cost, and you're paying that all the time. If you're going 200 days between crashes on a disk-intensive box then using a journalling fs to save 30 minutes at reboot time just doesn't stack up: you've lost much, much more time than that across the 200 days. It all depends on what the machine is doing and what your max downtime requirements are. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/