Received: by 10.223.185.111 with SMTP id b44csp738472wrg; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 12:47:21 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELuUdxddHgNhcfgMx7MYOadq0AMtsnp/2qPnLcN2dRL7Zc12oHXeT9TKdI17LNCfZW7HNkS3 X-Received: by 10.98.133.86 with SMTP id u83mr31520074pfd.172.1520628441725; Fri, 09 Mar 2018 12:47:21 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1520628441; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=j5TD9t++DL7HzUOE5rSBbTgVoRlmkunaPKWYAnklZdwR+ncfazWt00t40XqU6HVHoq V8+PTmHZq1yIDhL5XjDZJhdfGaedrMYvSPU5IfUSraekH0NEhQZEbajFUQPV6F0nMKhS rOcA0TxsYZp1rrs7DIYusjHj0igAaGtzvMsfG9jVp1gn+fEtpM5p/8QD2JRBaPEZ75rp 51jcD8KU+/c9i/zrPxzUw03LDGQVGtmRU23dru7Q4m2Kkocxi6DL2JXQ80deCbzMusUH wGYicdX7QhIgMbm+s/Htdp/NTlK0YLIjX3yRh14xzNqHWaJIOALZ+fgZ5Q/eyb+fvyOE 2m6A== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :organization:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from :date:arc-authentication-results; bh=qCeAP+x4t+kan3ATeUAJVxBVW/JMlVP86QBzAAJOfPg=; b=SwUkz4w/MWRVxc37nJBOYXBt2HHmhRxlnSmy+arJ5rPH1iSOxIE3LzASognwcMU2fl wbYlXb/pY7uaUosHG4OYkbdKcZluaTyT/N1kBxDG+Gxc14/ErBEymBIFt/dWy5/pWX0H 0EwyYTUOVLdOjsygTjqOo0621Qeeb26dVPY2bU+xMdAxTBSmnku/+/qOtsOOu0EMWXLK tEVRRfmRkAcv7Ix1kpGjQpmqdvqyX3p/KnUABDzkwfr30sx3pvsP6qI38GG+/V15H8Z6 8QIh3hRGvPxTWdXbSr4SgqZxp0os26u6MnvV2YSUQXi44/0aUtVIRwYvoNEYWYsuCcQK vUMg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x3si1210871pgr.279.2018.03.09.12.47.06; Fri, 09 Mar 2018 12:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932371AbeCIUqE (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 9 Mar 2018 15:46:04 -0500 Received: from www.llwyncelyn.cymru ([82.70.14.225]:58070 "EHLO fuzix.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751219AbeCIUqC (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Mar 2018 15:46:02 -0500 Received: from alans-desktop (82-70-14-226.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.70.14.226]) by fuzix.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w29KjRj5015926; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 20:45:27 GMT Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 20:45:26 +0000 From: Alan Cox To: Dave Hansen Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com, tglx@linutronix.de, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, aarcange@redhat.com, luto@kernel.org, keescook@google.com, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net, mark.rutland@arm.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] [v2] docs: clarify security-bugs disclosure policy Message-ID: <20180309204526.56301f43@alans-desktop> In-Reply-To: <20180307214624.D4361772@viggo.jf.intel.com> References: <20180307214624.D4361772@viggo.jf.intel.com> Organization: Intel Corporation X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.1-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 13:46:24 -0800 Dave Hansen wrote: > From: Dave Hansen > > I think we need to soften the language a bit. It might scare folks > off, especially the: > > We prefer to fully disclose the bug as soon as possible. > > which is not really the case. Linus says: > > It's not full disclosure, it's not coordinated disclosure, > and it's not "no disclosure". It's more like just "timely > open fixes". > > I changed a bit of the wording in here, but mostly to remove the word > "disclosure" since it seems to mean very specific things to people > that we do not mean here. > If you want to be taken seriously then I think minimum you also need to - Give a GPG key for messages to the list - State what security is in place (encryption etc) to protect the list itself There are probably a lot more things people would ask but given the policy now clear that it's basically just an 'early tip off'/'make sure Linus doesn't miss this' list for very short notification periods doesn't matter so much. Alan