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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q84si7307860pfa.358.2018.03.13.03.04.19; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 03:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=Dsrb6VRV; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752464AbeCMKDQ (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 13 Mar 2018 06:03:16 -0400 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:59893 "EHLO out1-smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752108AbeCMKDO (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Mar 2018 06:03:14 -0400 Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D6620AE6; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 06:03:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 13 Mar 2018 06:03:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=chjuRN2rYgrjy/fTGeIk+WIGrBT5O gNFOjBfchO3el0=; b=Dsrb6VRVEnTgZQm86mfxe7bzgZM3NCENrt7MGprRg6gYH ubdOE21kViMQ9RVbXDGTUqLZ+YXOrsHqTNypNnljf2EtMoZ+0tUdrTEHNZWQlcT1 XkRrrCy+MqHcWkzm6rMRN9+NG6rPEhVHDEhscCMkWIluAGJ3Unl5QFM03IajfWBG 8eu0yb7A84kIcEoHESaOenMdGe/upSEWhKcMIsnTzszVd+JmsoP8mu5AVBV8Mlq/ xuKy/IAer8i1/QaAP/sWqzcY0YfndYTYk1g0FEdPanFkEjaD0g7NQQ7QUD+XSu/t XVrr0VdNEWmvpTfc5MTSoGdpTZvXi608TPOTlMoSQ== X-ME-Sender: Received: from localhost (lfbn-1-12258-90.w90-92.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.92.71.90]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AF631241E0; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 06:03:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 11:03:16 +0100 From: Greg KH To: Mark Brown Cc: Alex Shi , Marc Zyngier , Will Deacon , Ard Biesheuvel , Catalin Marinas , stable@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/29] arm meltdown fix backporting review for lts 4.9 Message-ID: <20180313100316.GA1999@kroah.com> References: <1519790211-16582-1-git-send-email-alex.shi@linaro.org> <20180301152450.GA4061@kroah.com> <5cf40379-9098-da02-a471-8abd7d8f0be8@linaro.org> <20180302165415.GB8704@kroah.com> <20180305124638.GG8588@sirena.org.uk> <20180305130859.GB17802@kroah.com> <20180306142634.GC13586@sirena.org.uk> <20180306172525.GA6618@kroah.com> <20180306213129.GG13586@sirena.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180306213129.GG13586@sirena.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 09:31:29PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 09:25:25AM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 02:26:34PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote: > > Really? Like what? Last I looked it's only about 300 or so patches. > > Something like less than .5% of the normal SoC backport size for any ARM > > system recently. There were some numbers published a few months ago > > about the real count, I can dig them up if you are curious. > > Really. > > The Android tree is making non-trivial modifications adding new features > in core bits of the kernel like the scheduler - that's got an impact > which will have follow on validation costs if it's not introduced early > on in the process. Ah crap, I forgot all about the scheduler mess. Sorry about that, I've been focusing on device-specific stuff too much (nothing I much care lives outside of drivers/...) So you are right, for some types of devices, the andoid-common tree isn't the best idea. However, the validation "costs" better be starting all over based on the intrusiveness of these patches, they are non-trivial :( thanks, greg k-h