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        Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
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Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: [PATCH net-next 02/10] net: phy: phylink: allow 10GKR
 interface to use in-band negotiation
Thread-Topic: [EXT] Re: [PATCH net-next 02/10] net: phy: phylink: allow 10GKR
 interface to use in-band negotiation
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Date:   Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:01:07 +0000
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The DTS-patch for this board (in "old" format) is attached


Yan Markman
Tel. 05-44732819


-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Chulski=20
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 2:58 PM
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>; Antoine Tenart <antoi=
ne.tenart@bootlin.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net; kishon@ti.com; gregory.clement@bootlin.com; andrew=
@lunn.ch; jason@lakedaemon.net; sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com; netdev@vge=
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Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: [PATCH net-next 02/10] net: phy: phylink: allow 10GK=
R interface to use in-band negotiation

> > > There is no inband negotiation like there is with 802.3z or SGMII,=20
> > > so this makes no sense.
> >
> > Oh, that's what I feared. I read some docs but probably will need=20
> > more
> > :)
> >
> > Anyway, the reason to use in-band negotiation was also to avoid=20
> > using fixed-link. It would work but always report the link is up,=20
> > which for the user isn't a great experience as we have a way to detect =
this.
> >
> > What would you suggest to achieve this in a reasonable way?
>=20
> The intention of this test in phylink_of_phy_connect() is to avoid=20
> failing when there is no requirement for a PHY to be present (such as=20
> a fixed link, or an 802.3z link.)  However, with 10G PHYs such as the=20
> 3310, we need the PHY so we can read the speed from it, and so know=20
> whether to downgrade the MAC to SGMII mode, or having downgraded the=20
> MAC, upgrade it back to 10G mode when the PHY switches to 10G.
>=20
> I'm guessing that you're wanting this for the DB boards, but I don't see =
why.
> Do they not have PHYs?

New Solid Run board MACCHIATObin Single Shot doesn't has  3310 PHY either, =
like DB boards.
https://www.cnx-software.com/2017/12/20/solidrun-macchiatobin-single-shot-n=
etworking-board-launched-for-269-and-up/

Stefan,
Best Regards.

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