Received: by 10.213.65.68 with SMTP id h4csp134868imn; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 18:35:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx49/MCR0fDkhUSJX2sUG1OKRSvIlxYztDIsNqLGlMNBHTvm6XkttJt1y0qenXHH50Yp6ZxE1 X-Received: by 10.99.103.197 with SMTP id b188mr1110677pgc.108.1522200950784; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 18:35:50 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1522200950; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=yDd6bFPu5VY8iUcDII1n7W8K9Dv7BRS8LxQwNuZQKpcubMT2sC6p6tUUGMSLF4gr/k DRDV6FC8t0lTAa0raFDfFK+rdSv5jnqBmjPnRfXWyjnm7bCJoF6jhAmNoPgJzp9CYLoS X4IXKw6XSQ92rjcvCvD551jerONzQps2tLXVHnxXQrCY4ddA1JZS4pyaVnGtIUadoQyi Ignnxdl1N/Z5ovDPLZwVuvw0W0+8DVWQwhgO+9IoHEk+wqqBsg+IzheH0QvofQkix0a1 5mzVQsWzdBrcDxbyZwm4/V/Oq8j8uCwj3zA7sJBoH7syUCE04RSq3KmncIMF/gNkjNcG /b4g== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date:arc-authentication-results; bh=wjBWLKIRxs3mtbAlCUFRLPFg6xggzghZaWMcdEqBCbE=; b=yRefK188d/ZyQ26EuCCY1M/0mt3ppr/CD+eUYe4roMJX/YV7ufTOo2VuBnO5P8AH2t g+H2bgNxzsQmskl1/3seP0xyfuLgrZdKez8zyDlgNbZriNgkypKdTBVlJvgmiPUyP7PD sJ71DwIF2EPnfvN2EFNDA3yL9P/lrHxbCROO4Tz73QZrhfrJ4DaxLECizlZ+TfCHO06w h/DUi8Eop4/NnWocIFVKrgZpWFfrkVS6YI7FnaCWTRCqvisKoTpIpKhgzQ/xlzTwL1yw hqyudVf4rBRPIP3cIbrpuwU5N/4q8lVX6/FblaXqW+CTnQEX2jeHbZOGT3JXrwMit4Xy WNkA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id y14si1940877pff.54.2018.03.27.18.35.25; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 18:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752593AbeC1BeE (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 27 Mar 2018 21:34:04 -0400 Received: from dcvr.yhbt.net ([64.71.152.64]:49270 "EHLO dcvr.yhbt.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752008AbeC1BeD (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Mar 2018 21:34:03 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 445 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 21:34:03 EDT Received: from localhost (dcvr.yhbt.net [127.0.0.1]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3331F404; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 01:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 01:26:37 +0000 From: Eric Wong To: =?utf-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsA==?= Bjarmason Cc: "brian m. carlson" , git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] send-email: supply a --send-delay=1 by default Message-ID: <20180328012637.GA12551@whir> References: <20180325182803.30036-1-avarab@gmail.com> <20180325182803.30036-3-avarab@gmail.com> <20180325210132.GE74743@genre.crustytoothpaste.net> <87605jyfvi.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87605jyfvi.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > Good point. I also see that (via git log --author=Ævar --grep='^\[PATCH > ') that this series itself arrived out of order (0 -> 2 -> 1), but I > don't know to what extent public-inbox itself might be batching things. public-inbox doesn't batch, aside from when the public-inbox-watch process gets restarted and needs to catch up using readdir. Once it's done catching up with readdir, it gets into an inotify loop which injects messages in the order the MTA (or offlineimap) puts them in a Maildir. Right now, public-inbox only sorts by Date: header in the mail. The next Xapian schema revision of public-inbox will use internally sorts search results(*) by the date in the newest Received: header. That is analogous to git committer date. The displayed message date will still be sorted by the Date: header (analogous to git author date); since git-send-email already alters the Date: in a series for sorting. This allow messages/threads which are actually new get bumped to the top of the homepage; regardless of how wrong the original sender's clock was. It should help prevent kernel developers from crafting message dates with optimization for classic^Wextra reviews in mind :) (*) all the look-at-a-bunch-of-messages operations, including the landing page (e.g. https://public-inbox.org/git/) is a Xapian search query, nowadays; but "git log"