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From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Date:   Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:01:41 -0700
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Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Kernel lockdown for secure boot
To:     Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com>
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On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com> wrote:
>
>> .. maybe you don't *want* secure boot, but it's been pushed in your
>> face by people with an agenda?
>
> Then turn it off, or build a self-signed kernel that doesn't do this?

Umm. So you asked a question, and then when you got an answer you said
"don't do that then".

The fact is, some hardware pushes secure boot pretty hard. That has
*nothing* to do with some "lockdown" mode.

Why do you conflate the two? That was the original question. You
replied with another question. People answered yours.

NOW ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, DAMMIT.

             Linus