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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id m23si2713942pgc.672.2018.04.03.16.14.34; Tue, 03 Apr 2018 16:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=fail header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=lBgDQqH9; dkim=fail header.i=@linux-foundation.org header.s=google header.b=Q1x7yet0; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754131AbeDCXLA (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 3 Apr 2018 19:11:00 -0400 Received: from mail-io0-f181.google.com ([209.85.223.181]:40438 "EHLO mail-io0-f181.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753305AbeDCXK5 (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Apr 2018 19:10:57 -0400 Received: by mail-io0-f181.google.com with SMTP id e79so24037409ioi.7; Tue, 03 Apr 2018 16:10:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=69EfhQdg6vbHWIRykLHH7mv3BLe8DMkfgtmj4A03YpM=; b=lBgDQqH9bUfj8jQADFXYXs+N+zzioP3sX7O3zkDbNz5TmBelgfem+J3evfC8GKOamI YBrVETxOJp1b4PGp2btxGhtlkPeR8LZ8sZ1/7xnahReb1fnNxn82JTiFZjbdbTmVQ6DJ MdH1/MIV4KCVlkiCnwp7TOlH4YWx+YVKFYGxtDQiIo83Mfh+KIwmVD854BBjIg2rR0x2 4S/4wCvVGEYHQS/Z4qzzHzG3DLapuAP/cnrz451uf+PKQEST9KbZk1cKEMPDGdPoKTfd sx8erx6x67B/Pw83K+1ODen64bsHvlICiJGYTE4eYKACti6mvtOaUbHQCU6qIZ5zvCdK hyow== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linux-foundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=69EfhQdg6vbHWIRykLHH7mv3BLe8DMkfgtmj4A03YpM=; b=Q1x7yet0e2Jy+5Se4IksuOxm3JfEi7pqM0+w6OcRk0qwhgdrD4pMNBdl1e8ToRH6Av 6SC4Bs6kP6c34LPNEzYvvvAIeiquEftPVRWo/Rv4SDpPc8E1VAlrn29jO1+eDrZc/AF5 Bbgnkr05CiJiDwVJmKHQ/DTtXHdzLxXKdUg98= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=69EfhQdg6vbHWIRykLHH7mv3BLe8DMkfgtmj4A03YpM=; b=OpewzpSd/Lz1pZNo7EGLfUS2vlmYEkzKh1zPmKyBzbdSGI+xypeaq+ETnc2Di6kJtZ O5iD5FEI3fYxDIK7hgoMq4xXRUzkgCJnu7BJi3KxzpaPJzYxLyk/wsrSDh8JZEB1wKvR FF2/y3fc2R88HtpBeiimsumiocT8CQApjyZh73YfPkimOJbeb9dB8Z0GuYwRryjhEBtp FbUofnMc+s87fAnO0hOY41M/il2tLiffSeQ66XR10SWIct3fGFnPlMJUHP26ct6WSD20 ANivTd7bi5SJ9ILevV4RGyVtb64zuB3ir18MeM9/9oRQXZhkzw3qa2MHcu+NbGgpbf6l MkXA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tD4+HFBpqDunc1OIh0MbHrY6UdSKCs9W+1rHDzYw4sdbCzVEsOW W0k9LVff49mKRcU05qAtXmnKpEgJgzJou0g1itY= X-Received: by 10.107.10.219 with SMTP id 88mr15170703iok.259.1522797056247; Tue, 03 Apr 2018 16:10:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.95.15 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Apr 2018 16:10:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4136.1522452584@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <186aeb7e-1225-4bb8-3ff5-863a1cde86de@kernel.org> <30459.1522739219@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <9758.1522775763@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <13189.1522784944@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <9349.1522794769@warthog.procyon.org.uk> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 16:10:55 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eelB7W0ujQUOEttPJ5D8HE-6R5I Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Kernel lockdown for secure boot To: Matthew Garrett Cc: Andrew Lutomirski , David Howells , Ard Biesheuvel , James Morris , Alan Cox , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Justin Forbes , linux-man , joeyli , LSM List , Linux API , Kees Cook , linux-efi Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > This discussion is over until you give an actual honest-to-goodness > reason for why you tied the two features together. No more "Why not?" > crap. Side note: I suspect the reason is something along the lines of "there are political reasons". But dammit, if that's the case, those should be documented and explained, not answered with "why not" when people ask why something is the case. Linus