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Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 3798903 From: David Howells In-Reply-To: References: <4136.1522452584@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <186aeb7e-1225-4bb8-3ff5-863a1cde86de@kernel.org> <30459.1522739219@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <9758.1522775763@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <13189.1522784944@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <9349.1522794769@warthog.procyon.org.uk> To: Linus Torvalds Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Matthew Garrett , Andrew Lutomirski , Ard Biesheuvel , James Morris , Alan Cox , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Justin Forbes , linux-man , joeyli , LSM List , Linux API , Kees Cook , linux-efi Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Kernel lockdown for secure boot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <11443.1522799762.1@warthog.procyon.org.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 00:56:02 +0100 Message-ID: <11444.1522799762@warthog.procyon.org.uk> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.11.54.6 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.11.55.1]); Tue, 03 Apr 2018 23:56:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.11.55.1]); Tue, 03 Apr 2018 23:56:10 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'10.11.54.6' DOMAIN:'int-mx06.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com' HELO:'smtp.corp.redhat.com' FROM:'dhowells@redhat.com' RCPT:'' Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Linus Torvalds wrote: > Be honest now. It wasn't generally users who clamored for it. > ... > If the user actually wanted it, and is asking for it, he can enable it. From the distributions' point of view, this is a rubbish argument. Most users haven't even given this a moment's thought, aren't even aware of the issues, don't even know to ask and, for them, it makes no difference. They trust their distribution to deal with stuff they don't know about. David