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Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 3798903 From: David Howells In-Reply-To: References: <4136.1522452584@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <186aeb7e-1225-4bb8-3ff5-863a1cde86de@kernel.org> <30459.1522739219@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <9758.1522775763@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <13189.1522784944@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <9349.1522794769@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <20736.1522829117@warthog.procyon.org.uk> To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Andy Lutomirski , Jann Horn , Linus Torvalds , Matthew Garrett , Ard Biesheuvel , James Morris , Alan Cox , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Justin Forbes , linux-man , joeyli , LSM List , Linux API , Kees Cook , linux-efi Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Kernel lockdown for secure boot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <23978.1522853068.1@warthog.procyon.org.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 15:44:28 +0100 Message-ID: <23979.1522853068@warthog.procyon.org.uk> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.11.54.3 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.11.55.5]); Wed, 04 Apr 2018 14:44:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.11.55.5]); Wed, 04 Apr 2018 14:44:30 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'10.11.54.3' DOMAIN:'int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com' HELO:'smtp.corp.redhat.com' FROM:'dhowells@redhat.com' RCPT:'' Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > >> As far as I can tell, what's really going on here is that there's a > >> significant contingent here that wants to prevent Linux from > >> chainloading something that isn't Linux. > > > > You have completely the wrong end of the stick. No one has said that or > > even implied that. You are alleging dishonesty on our part. > > I'm alleging that the idea that Linux seems some particular policy to > avoid being blacklisted keeps being brought up as a justification for > these patches. No, you were alleging that "[we want] to prevent Linux from chainloading something that isn't Linux.". This is not true - at least, it's not true on my part; I cannot speak for what other people may think privately. David