Received: by 10.213.65.68 with SMTP id h4csp1285905imn; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 16:27:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx495FzPC4FuZwFeQRyhaOrZVyJneQ+/c+NtJcqfamyRMMbGN9HXo4zPvKiEXq8hJKeisWWTi X-Received: by 10.101.82.69 with SMTP id q5mr13283813pgp.358.1522884427967; Wed, 04 Apr 2018 16:27:07 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1522884427; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=qTVdAEyy7Nqs+g611cc1Un2cNwVhYe0JPUQtl+ST0rV25jviuAAvtl4GG1f6+gQEg0 O4lwkDngEAXriOXATh4OjRmV5QCYj/JZ9leMBbNXFeRkRX2W4izo4sVZCgR1pZHAZ+7e q1qEE9sKSQS6nkYHewKZXBStqI+Vu9oTvSkkxM0n10OT4UFjrzFqLLr6tt/mlEQUZQsS WD9qoclIHVA3hXbaeRWKAOAnLgpq3bjddeR4mGqlLqe5ChEg1tNrMQM+bXiltEkWGpoF j6ea72OfK+yiN7CA+5n2Q9svXZsZWiHWu+X9VRXliGCeHS0GOoMKcCUFP5WpIJZ/ZD2Z 30DQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:mime-version:user-agent:references :message-id:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:date :arc-authentication-results; bh=YSgtx0fi4xHSifSe6NCHQuYJ5KOFHPzx0oikT/jrToQ=; b=KllJAK2sdSt801lgQIcDEUL5OI99O2ZUv1yFmvbAaZCoD/hzLRnrjPO6KA2eoKsL+j FlIwVgzBwyq6YO5KRTy/x7annMUV0piJJMDLxoXtR/c7kdiGCN8nhaA/h7daC5uc6ee9 L9iKipDJI+pm4sNYeNQPfHJP3duHMasfHTx6Dx3n80WCVxdyodJAT/G0M/G2Jm6ANkW0 XuwSiev1R3veHIT5XRFe0KvjvVnp5bWsqd1pGioB6VpfNWZIVXIxRCdOCeXLnoS620Ef Y/W1/HSXH73T84jglEA15Hmcmn/k4mOWAWTiABdYJn+zWJvCJmLUBcERWGXt2fFSqPlu CnyQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id y11-v6si4149117plg.154.2018.04.04.16.26.53; Wed, 04 Apr 2018 16:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752492AbeDDXZj (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:25:39 -0400 Received: from namei.org ([65.99.196.166]:55474 "EHLO namei.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752374AbeDDXZi (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:25:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by namei.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w34NPJLk025461; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 23:25:19 GMT Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 09:25:19 +1000 (AEST) From: James Morris To: David Howells cc: Andy Lutomirski , Greg Kroah-Hartman , "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Matthew Garrett , Linus Torvalds , Ard Biesheuvel , Alan Cox , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Justin Forbes , linux-man , joeyli , LSM List , Linux API , Kees Cook , linux-efi Subject: Re: An actual suggestion (Re: [GIT PULL] Kernel lockdown for secure boot) In-Reply-To: <1119.1522858644@warthog.procyon.org.uk> Message-ID: References: <1119.1522858644@warthog.procyon.org.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (LRH 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, David Howells wrote: > > 6. There's a way to *decrease* the lockdown level below the configured > > value. (This ability itself may be gated by a config option.) > > Choices include a UEFI protected variable, > > By turning secure boot off, maybe? It's surely reasonable to allow an already secure-booted system to be debugged without needing to be rebooted. - James -- James Morris