Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S272924AbTHPOCp (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Aug 2003 10:02:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S272927AbTHPOCp (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Aug 2003 10:02:45 -0400 Received: from c210-49-248-224.thoms1.vic.optusnet.com.au ([210.49.248.224]:44762 "EHLO mail.kolivas.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S272924AbTHPOCn (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Aug 2003 10:02:43 -0400 From: Con Kolivas To: Voluspa , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] O16.2int Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 00:09:06 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <20030816130735.3ec67ac9.lista1@telia.com> In-Reply-To: <20030816130735.3ec67ac9.lista1@telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308170009.06461.kernel@kolivas.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2185 Lines: 45 On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 21:07, Voluspa wrote: > On 2003-08-16 8:59:48 Con Kolivas wrote: > > Much simpler > > For a coder, perhaps. This user however is facing what feels like a > fundamental flaw. The doubling of boot time was fixed, but game-test is > pretty much as it was in pure O16 (impossible) and Blender is equally > bad - now even the mouse pointer vanishes, becomes invisible, during the > 10+ second pauses. And it is with Blender as only app running. Didn't > dare to start xmms... Nice. Funny you should mention xmms in the same sentence since that's an app that works fine. I was under no illusion that O16s were going to make these apps perform well. Now you have to clarify what you mean by game test as being impossible. I assume you mean wine based games? The only game I own is neverwinternights and that performs beautifully. You have to tell me about this blender app? I'm unable to fully reproduce these problems here as the only thing exhibiting starvation is a mozilla plugin that is busy on wait using the libgdk(something) library, and it is usable without starvation albeit at sucky performance. If you can profile blender sucking it would be helpful. > I'll keep running the 2.6.0-test3 ---> O16.2int though. Might pick up > other cases of regression in lighter usage. It's not a matter of light versus heavy, it's only select applications. Try running your machine at absurd loads (without hitting swap) with apps that don't exhibit it. Since these are the last thing in my gunsights for the interactivity development I'd appreciate as much info as anybody has on what happens when they suck, and if profiling can find a common link. Since I own none of the apps that do this I can only try to fix them with your help. If someone is available for frequent small patch testing that would also be helpful as that helped the other interactivity development, so please email me directly. Con - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/