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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 7-v6si13993625ple.604.2018.04.09.02.18.13; Mon, 09 Apr 2018 02:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=fail header.i=@ffwll.ch header.s=google header.b=eggi1gEN; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752240AbeDIJOW (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 9 Apr 2018 05:14:22 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f66.google.com ([74.125.82.66]:38092 "EHLO mail-wm0-f66.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751291AbeDIJOU (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Apr 2018 05:14:20 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f66.google.com with SMTP id i3so15149438wmf.3 for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2018 02:14:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ffwll.ch; s=google; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=rB7X36RUvOb8Oi48/Hta8HoMqUB96D1XEDkpv5O51sM=; b=eggi1gEN6sHqPKg6bY6gCA/1d43XASxlwxmR2j4a0dbM6M8C6z5CDajfJyVMqh9BrX bx0lyk/nVSEI9HJJts/dEbrvjmulbxbnL6UmMXYUI/djijbhuRCeHmzhCB+c5o2KyYxH EhLLNLq/YLtix1RaTxn6qHC5GUjjjlwKj35jc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=rB7X36RUvOb8Oi48/Hta8HoMqUB96D1XEDkpv5O51sM=; b=IjHOdGifx+me2/HP5oR4YWFmdpraz7ofmT0LsPm2HNgU5ecF1Idu4Ov2sgVpfe38gm XYCp65WB+80EiaSwoEHUMRbyw1WP7Hri+9nohNyeJlKc4EXHnESP3Vb9vy2z2VvHv1m7 F6bUOq/rXCfBRbMJZuZw4T+GKu4g5do5Q3KYYGvGQcQisiWL/iC1DerJuakE58FFB3h3 3ZT4ZwmhMfIZPxI+GdPOtaDLnUguOf3G68OnJTlGlGfgcBZXv4h7uazP2IAbfEUyqqV+ h6/6RE3zpWiFhliR95TtI9Am0WnIpBCNcWVHpv+hymuoHCK9FJWcgz6AV1sVkvUVDyOq Dsaw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tC0l+hS3Et9PYP1CQLuYc46sk8OU8NuiFevm5HCZxzehRD33Azw mRJWHFTtyZ5DO9WRIxH9mFAUbQ== X-Received: by 10.80.154.195 with SMTP id p61mr21697234edb.68.1523265259619; Mon, 09 Apr 2018 02:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phenom.ffwll.local ([2a02:168:5635:0:39d2:f87e:2033:9f6]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a3sm96439edi.53.2018.04.09.02.14.18 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 09 Apr 2018 02:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 11:14:17 +0200 From: Daniel Vetter To: Keith Packard Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Airlie , Daniel Vetter , dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] drm: Add crtc_queue_syncobj and crtc_get_syncobj ioctls Message-ID: <20180409091416.GT31310@phenom.ffwll.local> Mail-Followup-To: Keith Packard , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Airlie , dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org References: <20180406235649.9494-1-keithp@keithp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180406235649.9494-1-keithp@keithp.com> X-Operating-System: Linux phenom 4.15.0-1-amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 04:56:48PM -0700, Keith Packard wrote: > (This is an RFC on whether this pair of ioctls seems reasonable. The > code compiles, but I haven't tested it as I'm away from home this > weekend.) > > I'm rewriting my implementation of the Vulkan EXT_display_control > extension, which provides a way to signal a Vulkan fence at vblank > time. I had implemented it using events, but that isn't great as the > Vulkan API includes the ability to wait for any of a set of fences to > be signaled. As the other Vulkan fences are implemented using > dma_fences in the kernel, and (eventually) using syncobj up in user > space, it seems reasonable to use syncobjs for everything and hook > vblank to those. > > In any case, I'm proposing two new syncobj/vblank ioctls (the names > aren't great; suggestions welcome, as usual): > > DRM_IOCTL_CRTC_QUEUE_SYNCOBJ > > Create a new syncobj that will be signaled at (or after) the > specified vblank sequence value. This uses the same parameters > to specify the target sequence as > DRM_IOCTL_CRTC_QUEUE_SEQUENCE. My understanding of drm_syncobj is that you: - Create a syncobj with the drm_syncobj_create ioctl. - Pass it around to various driver callbacks who update the attached dma_fence pointer using drm_syncobj_replace_fence(). Yes amdgpu does this a bit differently, but that seems to be the exception. From that pov I'd massage the uapi to just extend drm_crtc_queue_sequence_ioctl with a new syncobj flag. Syncobj we can just add at the bottom of struct drm_crtc_queue_sequence (drm structs can be extended like that, it's part of the uapi). Or we reuse user_data, but that's a bit a hack. We also don't need a new event type, vblank code simply singals event->fence, which we'll arrange to be the fence behind the syncobj. > DRM_IOCTL_CRTC_GET_SYNCOBJ > > Once the above syncobj has been signaled, this ioctl allows > the application to find out when that happened, returning both > the vblank sequence count and time (in ns). The android syncpt stuff already had the concept of a fence timestamp, and we carried it over as part of struct dma_fence.timestamp. It's just not exposed yet as proper uapi. I think we should aim a bit more into that direction with something like the below sketch: - Add a dma_fence_signal_ts, which allows us to set the timestamp from a hw clock. - Use that in the vblank code. - Add new drm_syncobj ioctl to query the timestamp of the attached fence (if it's signalled). That would entirely avoid the special-case ioctl just for vblank syncobj here. Also, this might be useful in your implementation of VK_GOOGLE_display_timing, since the current query timestamp you're using won't take into account irq wakeup latency. Using fence->timestamp will still miss the irq->atomic worker wakupe latency, but should be a lot better already. > I'd like to hear comments on whether this seems reasonable, or whether > I should go in some other direction. Besides a few bikesheds to align better with other stuff going around I think this looks good. -- Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation http://blog.ffwll.ch