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received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: microsoft.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: rq/NshPhf7Ob0FdTif6rquvj5OkFj3hxgIn7dDzAGs4LMydnAhYhdfuZXmw2XWLGS/FI3vDNiaW5+Jv8ThDrqvFBsVoWrTamFBGaGRc+DRurA3EYTraPoFJtgRPVe0r52OvL8kbNzPcNlzoJv8FnyJzNzC9bmcW1sqWEgzcfZVheu7RDKdVACxWlwiV28ade spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <32A693D44F62364C9CE7D7F0F3157A72@namprd21.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 55c1b7ad-9a95-4cd6-8f2f-08d5a3b7052c X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 55c1b7ad-9a95-4cd6-8f2f-08d5a3b7052c X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 16 Apr 2018 16:28:00.2411 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 72f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM5PR2101MB1030 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:20:19PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: >On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:06:08 +0200 >Pavel Machek wrote: > >> That means you want to ignore not-so-serious bugs, because benefit of >> fixing them is lower than risk of the regressions. I believe bugs that >> do not bother anyone should _not_ be fixed in stable. >> >> That was case of the LED patch. Yes, the commit fixed bug, but it >> introduced regressions that were fixed by subsequent patches. > >I agree. I would disagree that the patch this thread is on should go to >stable. What's the point of stable if it introduces regressions by >backporting bug fixes for non major bugs. One such reason is that users will then hit the regression when they upgrade to the next -stable version anyways. >Every fix I make I consider labeling it for stable. The ones I don't, I >feel the bug fix is not worth the risk of added regressions. > >I worry that people will get lazy and stop marking commits for stable >(or even thinking about it) because they know that there's a bot that >will pull it for them. That thought crossed my mind. Why do I want to >label anything stable if a bot will probably catch it. Then I could >just wait till the bot posts it before I even think about stable. People are already "lazy". You are actually an exception for marking your commits. Yes, folks will chime in with "sure, I mark my patches too!", but if you look at the entire committer pool in the kernel you'll see that most don't bother with this to begin with.=