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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j7si9419102pgq.426.2018.04.16.09.31.33; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752204AbeDPQaZ (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:30:25 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:40756 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750972AbeDPQaX (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:30:23 -0400 Received: from gandalf.local.home (cpe-66-24-56-78.stny.res.rr.com [66.24.56.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E8E8821776; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:30:20 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org E8E8821776 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=rostedt@goodmis.org Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:30:19 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Sasha Levin Cc: Linus Torvalds , Petr Mladek , "stable@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "akpm@linux-foundation.org" , "linux-mm@kvack.org" , Cong Wang , Dave Hansen , Johannes Weiner , Mel Gorman , Michal Hocko , Vlastimil Babka , Peter Zijlstra , Jan Kara , Mathieu Desnoyers , Tetsuo Handa , Byungchul Park , Tejun Heo , Pavel Machek Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL for 4.14 015/161] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance console writes Message-ID: <20180416123019.4d235374@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20180416161911.GA2341@sasha-vm> References: <20180409001936.162706-1-alexander.levin@microsoft.com> <20180409001936.162706-15-alexander.levin@microsoft.com> <20180409082246.34hgp3ymkfqke3a4@pathway.suse.cz> <20180415144248.GP2341@sasha-vm> <20180416093058.6edca0bb@gandalf.local.home> <20180416113629.2474ae74@gandalf.local.home> <20180416160200.GY2341@sasha-vm> <20180416121224.2138b806@gandalf.local.home> <20180416161911.GA2341@sasha-vm> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:19:14 +0000 Sasha Levin wrote: > >Wait! What does that mean? What's the purpose of stable if it is as > >broken as mainline? > > This just means that if there is a fix that went in mainline, and the > fix is broken somehow, we'd rather take the broken fix than not. > > In this scenario, *something* will be broken, it's just a matter of > what. We'd rather have the same thing broken between mainline and > stable. Honestly, I think that removes all value of the stable series. I remember when the stable series were first created. People were saying that it wouldn't even get to more than 5 versions, because the bar for backporting was suppose to be very high. Today it's just a fork of the kernel at a given version. No more features, but we will be OK with regressions. I'm struggling to see what the benefit of it is suppose to be? -- Steve