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received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: microsoft.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: opvXDHwOYAmYrcmeHdu+c4VczdHy5iiU3BIc/+KeoDkJJLG9o1Np/4gNzFyD3bRHIiFFOLblbQQ+vkkwdPQ9w9HnTz0x6ZIg/rcaoooxEA7PLt9IkLe0LlOn/EBMXaejHar8ApcmmsXbXoSlJNNt3iUYDa1i+Y6jCPO33WrWvinM9qSrAe3OKNe3nkiONoDt spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <72CFA7D0500218408DD130DE38BEB7B7@namprd21.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: cdff0b17-df62-4cbc-d20a-08d5a3b89a65 X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: cdff0b17-df62-4cbc-d20a-08d5a3b89a65 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 16 Apr 2018 16:39:20.1326 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 72f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM5PR2101MB0888 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 06:28:50PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > >> >> Is there a reason not to take LED fixes if they fix a bug and don't >> >> cause a regression? Sure, we can draw some arbitrary line, maybe >> >> designate some subsystems that are more "important" than others, but >> >> what's the point? >> > >> >There's a tradeoff. >> > >> >You want to fix serious bugs in stable, and you really don't want >> >regressions in stable. And ... stable not having 1000s of patches >> >would be nice, too. >> >> I don't think we should use a number cap here, but rather look at the >> regression rate: how many patches broke something? >> >> Since the rate we're seeing now with AUTOSEL is similar to what we were >> seeing before AUTOSEL, what's the problem it's causing? > >Regression rate should not be the only criteria. > >More patches mean bigger chance customer's patches will have a >conflict with something in -stable, for example. Out of tree patches can't be a consideration here. There are no guarantees for out of tree code, ever.