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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id u9-v6si2459953plk.516.2018.04.16.09.44.12; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752783AbeDPQme (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:42:34 -0400 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.26.193]:46703 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751940AbeDPQmd (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:42:33 -0400 Received: by atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (Postfix, from userid 512) id AAE0180278; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:42:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:42:30 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Sasha Levin Cc: Linus Torvalds , Steven Rostedt , Petr Mladek , "stable@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "akpm@linux-foundation.org" , "linux-mm@kvack.org" , Cong Wang , Dave Hansen , Johannes Weiner , Mel Gorman , Michal Hocko , Vlastimil Babka , Peter Zijlstra , Jan Kara , Mathieu Desnoyers , Tetsuo Handa , Byungchul Park , Tejun Heo Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL for 4.14 015/161] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance console writes Message-ID: <20180416164230.GA9807@amd> References: <20180409082246.34hgp3ymkfqke3a4@pathway.suse.cz> <20180415144248.GP2341@sasha-vm> <20180416093058.6edca0bb@gandalf.local.home> <20180416153031.GA5039@amd> <20180416155031.GX2341@sasha-vm> <20180416160608.GA7071@amd> <20180416161412.GZ2341@sasha-vm> <20180416162850.GA7553@amd> <20180416163917.GE2341@sasha-vm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180416163917.GE2341@sasha-vm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon 2018-04-16 16:39:20, Sasha Levin wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 06:28:50PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > >> >> Is there a reason not to take LED fixes if they fix a bug and don't > >> >> cause a regression? Sure, we can draw some arbitrary line, maybe > >> >> designate some subsystems that are more "important" than others, but > >> >> what's the point? > >> > > >> >There's a tradeoff. > >> > > >> >You want to fix serious bugs in stable, and you really don't want > >> >regressions in stable. And ... stable not having 1000s of patches > >> >would be nice, too. > >> > >> I don't think we should use a number cap here, but rather look at the > >> regression rate: how many patches broke something? > >> > >> Since the rate we're seeing now with AUTOSEL is similar to what we were > >> seeing before AUTOSEL, what's the problem it's causing? > > > >Regression rate should not be the only criteria. > > > >More patches mean bigger chance customer's patches will have a > >conflict with something in -stable, for example. >=20 > Out of tree patches can't be a consideration here. There are no > guarantees for out of tree code, ever. Out of tree code is not consideration for mainline, agreed. Stable should be different. Pavel --=20 (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blo= g.html --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlrU0nYACgkQMOfwapXb+vK4LwCgiKi4ndB8QkImv8i+2CnZOiN8 xWsAn2jvJu/AuyU9cIwgMG0CPbq8xRWF =Xc7g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA--