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[174.3.196.123]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f124-v6sm2902219ioa.8.2018.04.20.07.54.01 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 20 Apr 2018 07:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jgg by mlx.ziepe.ca with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f9XQG-00086P-Q6; Fri, 20 Apr 2018 08:54:00 -0600 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 08:54:00 -0600 From: Jason Gunthorpe To: Bjorn Helgaas Cc: Sinan Kaya , Bjorn Helgaas , linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, sulrich@codeaurora.org, timur@codeaurora.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Mike Marciniszyn , Dennis Dalessandro , Doug Ledford , "open list:HFI1 DRIVER" , open list , Alex Deucher Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] IB/hfi1: Try slot reset before secondary bus reset Message-ID: <20180420145400.GA30433@ziepe.ca> References: <1524167784-5911-1-git-send-email-okaya@codeaurora.org> <20180419202632.GE14063@ziepe.ca> <20180419214722.GO28657@bhelgaas-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180419214722.GO28657@bhelgaas-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 04:47:23PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > I *thought* the hardware was supposed to automatically negotiate to > the highest rate supported by both sides without any help at all from > software. But since several drivers have code to do it themselves, I > wonder if I'm missing something, or maybe there's something the PCI > core should be doing that it isn't, and the driver code is basically > working around that PCI core deficiency. The HW is supposed to do that, but Gen3 is electrically *hard*. I'm not surprised that some HW has run into trouble where the driver might have to be involved to tweak the SERDES.. eg there is now often on-device software involved here and updating the SERDES 'firmware' may be needed. Jason