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From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
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On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 3:00 AM, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
>
> On Fri 2018-03-09 13:15:31, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>
>> Oh, I don't want to be taken seriously by people who use gpg
>> encrypted email.
>
> Heh. I see that gpg has some usability problems, but we do encrypt our
> http connections, and email is at least as sensitive.

It's not about sensitivity.

It's about the technology actually *working*.

PGP does not work for email. Never has, never will. It's unusable
crap. Nobody sane uses it, because the cost is just too damn high.

Make it as easy to use as https, and things will change. As it is,
don't even bother.

Thomas helped me get S/MIME working, and even for that I had to fix an
alpine bug that caused alpine to SIGSEGV. And that's _convenient_
compared to pgp email. Whee.

             Linus