Received: by 10.192.165.148 with SMTP id m20csp4097478imm; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:40:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpIZhgxVOT7I2lg+k41jv7h0De/QbtsYFcYHhyhiBFlFTlGljF1ScM5g97yFMYTFHRoIDHf X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:6b47:: with SMTP id g7-v6mr13409737plt.251.1525113618884; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:40:18 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1525113618; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=iZi76ev7rrH8kK+4yiYd0HasQCvd5hVMKCelyB62P9iTLKFuOGzcfAZOyKdRNyrK5c AEvTF8bH3HjNH6buKCKun8g4Ddwj4XDSSbEGzAClBJvcB+8d34CK3sBuQdfmKBe/Z3+j PxS3VheB/v2IjFLC+Od32wYEChmhwo1v+XURFXc/qHSsiUocm/aaa2LGBhMC8HamF0bD ursRTDYkBdFGn4lWHhtPB5Noq0NkwKaALBoRPGO52czvh5EmeexgaeOokZ/j9/6eEXMS wBMTL/czwR254DJZEOxspCavhxRGAoOJvcvUYN3u9ranbK9Tnih3TC10gqIysSje5bgG Q12w== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date:dmarc-filter:arc-authentication-results; bh=HH0ZKw552wiMc4SZ0JoMGSsrqaTuIIvBDsIqWg5vrMk=; b=lizlHeeBXCuk1Zlu+YNfHWbRuMAttzrHlt4oTgK6leAlynOhF8ZEQiKLX3DiOL0QUJ 6k/vS5zZmxBK4+dngpxzfIas869khADQSm3aq2iIYlnjbAe5yrydaP1EEVsPmwMP7buJ DNxX+nsgN7o+Yf7nVgjabCFp9WOlil3/o2oUp+v3EsCx/ACoYUhJTnDWWN6Fv+ShEqHv NTPo9Gz+AGrSYW3X+2MySBvtHPCPgVhGNL6a6yB5gTdhQ73YiejIQneZ15kTUrrYW++e TZVzcpK0zR3ZyrysA4T7KE4Xgs2p2vGdVPorGVYMV3gP7Cop3hqIs+7PldEffXc9ieg1 sh8w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id u2-v6si4714010plm.379.2018.04.30.11.40.01; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754499AbeD3Sig (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 30 Apr 2018 14:38:36 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:47370 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753608AbeD3Sif (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Apr 2018 14:38:35 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [104.132.1.102]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E4BA22D48; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 18:38:35 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 3E4BA22D48 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:38:26 -0700 From: Greg KH To: Sasha Levin Cc: "julia.lawall@lip6.fr" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: bug-introducing patches (or: -rc cycles suck) Message-ID: <20180430183826.GA8287@kroah.com> References: <20180430175829.GB1544@sasha-vm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180430175829.GB1544@sasha-vm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 05:58:30PM +0000, Sasha Levin wrote: > Working on AUTOSEL, it became even more obvious to me how difficult it is for a patch to get a proper review. Maintainers found it difficult to keep up with the upstream work for their subsystem, and reviewing additional -stable patches put even more load on them which some suggested would be more than what they can handle. > /me hands Sasha some extra '\n' characters This is great info. Can you reformat your email to be sane and send this to the ksummit discuss mailing list? I think the audience there might be a bit more receptive than the noise that is lkml at times :) thanks, greg k-h