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From:   "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: bug-introducing patches
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On Tue, May 01, 2018 at 04:38:21PM +0000, Sasha Levin wrote:
>  - A merge window commit spent 50% more days, on average, in -next than a -rc
>    commit.

So it *used* to be the case that after the merge window, I would queue
up bug fixes for the next merge window.  Greg K-H pushed for me to
send them to Linus sooner, instead of waiting for the next merge
window.  TBH, it's actually easier for me to just wait until the next
merge window, but please understand that there are multiple pressures
on maintainers going on here, and the latest efforts to try to use
AUTOSEL is just the most recent pressure placed on maintainers.

The other thing is that when there is a regression users who are
testing linux-next want it fixed *fast*.  That's considered more
important to them than waiting for one, perfect patch, just to keep
AUTOSEL happy.

So please understand that when you say that maintainers *need* to do X
or Y, that there you are not the only one standing in line putting
pressures on maintainers saying they *need* to do something.  And
quite frankly, I consider keeping people who are nice enough to test
linux-next happy to be **far** more important than AUTOSEL.

Sorry.

						- Ted