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Date:   Thu, 3 May 2018 12:04:41 +0200
From:   Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To:     Sasha Levin <Alexander.Levin@microsoft.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL for 4.14 015/161] printk: Add console owner and
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On Tue 2018-04-17 16:06:29, Sasha Levin wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 05:52:30PM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> >On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Sasha Levin wrote:
> >
> >> How do I get the XFS folks to send their stuff to -stable? (we have
> >> quite a few customers who use XFS)
> >
> >If XFS (or *any* other subsystem) doesn't have enough manpower of upstre=
am
> >maintainers to deal with stable, we just have to accept that and find an
> >answer to that.
>=20
> This is exactly what I'm doing. Many subsystems don't have enough
> manpower to deal with -stable, so I'm trying to help.

=2E..and the torrent of spams from the AUTOSEL subsystem actually makes
that worse.

And when you are told particular fix to LEDs is not that important
after all, you start arguing about nuclear power plants (without
really knowing how critical subsystems work).

If you want cooperation with maintainers to work, the rules need to be
clear, first. They are documented, so follow them. If you think rules
are wrong, lets talk about changing the rules; but arguing "every bug
is important because someone may be hitting it" is not ok.

									Pavel
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(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blo=
g.html

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