Received: by 10.192.165.148 with SMTP id m20csp1943224imm; Thu, 3 May 2018 07:54:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZqwOOjWm5zSkgsVk1ZCkPbJ/duVGQERzMmO0j0CYuKrTIpOa59uLpFu3NKsjxzKa5mpINwK X-Received: by 2002:a63:5f05:: with SMTP id t5-v6mr19084407pgb.165.1525359240136; Thu, 03 May 2018 07:54:00 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1525359240; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=I5jbcftfHn6lExk9/XDUqbts8Wx/hY6hlvcqCvI1nzAaNMPTWNzk7g/9OFTDUJOWh/ nO9ycnkZIPCbGe62snoP2maqTs7y+4QbjzjNcT6ThzQK9OgfTfV/N+k2K04ZR0r33Rf0 v6fR3mIsbrZU1XhZIJQkCWo9D3GcPH2YDy93jRvn+oGZAeQBgJXbl3yUoLWmv33NgdBG yZyhF7RgtfpX0QNtj75OF8JmPVSjgZiEYlfxMAdVXE14NPVBWbjTEf9Dt+EXTzyMbvuW udvWSavuEvuJoyPnwVHSZwSyxNvkKXodUEHWYrMolHJNLcBO06N2FgUJLz3Ip2HP5FzG kg2A== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date:arc-authentication-results; bh=lnvLC9mO/Qw8zbbu/g1Jnc3Br7VeB0zKHgGwAcjNhLc=; b=QyJrHp13kZ2kx1ps00Hx4TiWa+1dVZ+UjJ1vqoLphn7vfKutQS0lEfXvVTZ/BwMj6Y p7tGf9vk6Ow6KYlzV/KDs4to9kT6WdWLalX2y+RXP+zIrPM7wB7PrnJftWCWqbQ8ZLZ8 sRQxzTk0Of4DCJk/aXilLPJHuUtAzPTKASaFkDtoJ4pcF7R69Pl3zyHSYylqu9TfQ0UY 28Jbl6rJDx6bSxZjNelEYaAhk8A4CO51724f6hrTl9HZXNfBlxxYmY2R+hhTL2oXOSwv HKHTNIrDXkCWDC99Dc3B+w8XArNmtJsAQzN7jX02X6NRJAHR8oDDWSvPRHfjl1HWgJQG 5ZHA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id n3-v6si11200608pgr.562.2018.05.03.07.53.45; Thu, 03 May 2018 07:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751324AbeECOwU (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 3 May 2018 10:52:20 -0400 Received: from wtarreau.pck.nerim.net ([62.212.114.60]:46111 "EHLO 1wt.eu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751079AbeECOwS (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 May 2018 10:52:18 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by pcw.home.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w43Eq5EH023333; Thu, 3 May 2018 16:52:05 +0200 Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 16:52:05 +0200 From: Willy Tarreau To: Sasha Levin Cc: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Geert Uytterhoeven , Greg KH , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] bug-introducing patches Message-ID: <20180503145205.GD23311@1wt.eu> References: <20180501163818.GD1468@sasha-vm> <20180502195138.GC18390@sasha-vm> <20180503000620.GA29205@thunk.org> <20180503144612.GJ18390@sasha-vm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180503144612.GJ18390@sasha-vm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 02:46:14PM +0000, Sasha Levin wrote: > I'll work on breaking up the 4.16 commits into categories, but one > interesting statistic I've noticed while starting the work is: > > Fixes in -rc cycles: > rc1 68 > rc2 147 > rc3 88 > rc4 121 > rc5 40 > rc6 193 > rc7 98 > > Average days in -next, for a fix, per -rc cycle: > rc1 27.25 > rc2 21.4286 > rc3 22.5114 > rc4 18.281 > rc5 14.65 > rc6 12.6166 > rc7 8.70408 > > Fixes for bugs not introduced in current merge window: > rc1 40 > rc2 113 > rc3 61 > rc4 79 > rc5 25 > rc6 139 > rc7 72 > > So for some reason, there is a rush to push fixes for older bugs (that > were not introduced in the current merge window) to the point that rc7 > commits that only existed for a few days are merged in to address older > bugs. IMHO it's because it's the time it takes for users to start to trust the 3rd or 4th stable release of the previous version, to switch to it, to face a bug, to report it, and for the maintainer to write a fix. I wouldn't be much surprised if you'd find that among those not introduced in the current merge window, many were introduced in the previous release. Willy