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Ts'o" , Sasha Levin , Daniel Vetter , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Greg KH , "w@1wt.eu" , "julia.lawall@lip6.fr" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] bug-introducing patches Message-ID: <20180503224217.GR2714@sirena.org.uk> References: <20180501163818.GD1468@sasha-vm> <20180501194450.GD10479@thunk.org> <20180501200019.GA7397@sasha-vm> <20180501205448.GE10479@thunk.org> <20180501211551.GI2714@sirena.org.uk> <20180502194632.GB18390@sasha-vm> <20180503020550.GP2714@sirena.org.uk> <20180503031000.GC29205@thunk.org> <0276fcda-0385-8f22-dbdb-e063f7ed8bbe@roeck-us.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="soWJpSPh+l8Y6Fy7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0276fcda-0385-8f22-dbdb-e063f7ed8bbe@roeck-us.net> X-Cookie: Rubber bands have snappy endings! User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --soWJpSPh+l8Y6Fy7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 08:52:29PM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote: > As for -next, me and others stopped reporting bugs in it, because when we do > we tend to get flamed for the "noise". Is anyone aware (or cares) that mips > and nds32 images don't build ? Soaking clothes in an empty bathtub won't make > them wet, and bugs in code which no one builds, much less tests or uses, won't > be found. You've been flamed for testing -next? That's not been my experience and frankly it's pretty horrifying that it's happening. Testing is pretty much the whole point of -next existing in the first place so you have to wonder why people are putting their trees there if they don't want testing. I have seen a few issues with people reporting bugs on old versions of -next but otherwise... --soWJpSPh+l8Y6Fy7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEEreZoqmdXGLWf4p/qJNaLcl1Uh9AFAlrrkEYACgkQJNaLcl1U h9D6aAf/aWjbgLYQ25BOZg7Np2lo4EMzezJlcssRLQiCtkGkfdF8gyl/ZOJ2FokB RPhuUzekpRnqp8uCZi1GjTPPEU5efGBlYbdxISDDU6Rc5zCRqz0w48lq0XJMLiEH +Vo5MkdxKjTovaZ1/pz7VOk4dgv/cKdgRuKxzsMTX+rRsdzaBxACSIjWL7XCPxy7 17UaZSWkcjmO8AEkJe6oRoXOx7hrvT6SViX/+TQ7wrXzSrkL29n9/CG7MNR0TTUi EnIB4P/PcZvHDqPMskzgD8Taf0zNGmQGyfGxd4vgC9V3u7RCzayUUQ9OI3jrpASo tgKZVC1MOdMTB2GpgMekBFkGLEYHNw== =uYX5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --soWJpSPh+l8Y6Fy7--