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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id v23si15271780pfl.233.2018.05.03.15.49.39; Thu, 03 May 2018 15:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=feXbkuNB; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751257AbeECWsQ (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 3 May 2018 18:48:16 -0400 Received: from mail-ot0-f179.google.com ([74.125.82.179]:41362 "EHLO mail-ot0-f179.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751108AbeECWsP (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 May 2018 18:48:15 -0400 Received: by mail-ot0-f179.google.com with SMTP id t1-v6so22512082oth.8; Thu, 03 May 2018 15:48:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=3LjMqOHRT3TGV2ss/juEA9zKBr83i2At01r25QHvRKc=; b=feXbkuNBqYMHkBIDqpgQw/ADs9p2E2OhGTleibxn9ATyx+Kz5za8ve1IbfcG/WEqj9 4N9C2X5lX9SQuEqHgsxWgK1KdLfzCphlkevcqhL9HKGeREtGoDteuquVjdGtjHdJLeNl 5lZaP8or/+mHPAJDR35vKyYRHB13qiZ628QfUrSnhXDNRHikH4rYU+9Ydwo3xWEKIF6d Zbe93XRD68szqc0rURfYUeksA3kk2/TsAkVMH5CT7fif+Y6LG2QVN1fYZhDwqGWjiQJh 5wVjLZQT/tmyD1wFbyy4kXMtNdbUQfT+mQ3IFqiLd2hcmzvEsUY4nio6dLu/PAz0bWVr my4A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3LjMqOHRT3TGV2ss/juEA9zKBr83i2At01r25QHvRKc=; b=itodUlQOVmwSc3z3vE+xXAscCfjgH+JD0KhXt5wGXgKogXfQYdYmoSvrR+Iuk7ceoZ HtiRngK5sgU9/8wYUH/Jp5Fq2kV7meyxHwX7YsyJ+zh2wPWmaVqhA88m02/8uvgcBHVP 2x1QVJXJKiKz50sfxI+VHhh7MfLfcSBkxBUW0Bi1xx+iUYVTYpW05lyuAzQGlCqUXfPy 9lwqcm9iP5dIYIB1HqfgDbwB6aOx5iw8qiQHlQrk3t4zfY0UQPWNkgUjJ+ZkYa8DWJrY EJ2SHPHy/K3neeMC/W+IS8jP9rlDre/HPdL/0Khvz4KXpFeQe6YsjbZ5yz1mWZvs2zUz rfYw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tCfpK69mYCbZe7k7qBpQgqc9mAdxLXJbg84ASiCefDa9Qt5etk/ suM3kAOR2762RV9WgX26cNAPQG0zqHBZ598OA/kQBw== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:3604:: with SMTP id w4-v6mr16871358otb.157.1525387694477; Thu, 03 May 2018 15:48:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a9d:185:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 3 May 2018 15:48:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3d9be2f2-3fbe-411b-8529-0e0847f01346@infradead.org> References: <3d9be2f2-3fbe-411b-8529-0e0847f01346@infradead.org> From: Ulf Magnusson Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 00:48:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kconfiglib menuconfig implementation To: Randy Dunlap Cc: Linux Kbuild mailing list , Linux Kernel Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 10:28 PM, Randy Dunlap wrote: > Hi, > > (with new kconfiglib.py and menuconfig.py) > > Thanks for the fixes. > > If I use "LC_CTYPE=C.UTF-8" then I get the down arrows in the bottom colored > bar. Without that, I get an upside-down T (that is 193, 0xc1, line drawing > character in the IBM extended character set). > > Hm. With LC_CTYPE=C.UTF-8, the upper colored bar prints up arrows. > Without that, it prints ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. > That's nice that it can do either. The arrows use ACS_U/DARROW from the alternate character set. You get nice Unicode arrows for those with ncurses/PDCurses, plus "fallbacks" (strictly speaking the Unicode arrows are fallbacks too). Unicode text entry is still broken with LC_CTYPE=C, because ncurses respects it. Having the menuconfig just force C.UTF-8 if it's available might fix a bunch of problems in practice, even if it feels a bit iffy to force settings. Python 3.7 will improve things at least. It converts LC_CTYPE=C into LC_CTYPE=. Cleanest would be if all environments sanely defaulted to UTF-8, but that's not how it is in practice, unfortunately. :) > > Being a vim user, I do like the optional navigation keys. > > -- > ~Randy Cheers, Ulf