Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261360AbTHZO25 (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:28:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263999AbTHZOMi (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:12:38 -0400 Received: from nat9.steeleye.com ([65.114.3.137]:42246 "EHLO hancock.sc.steeleye.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263787AbTHZOKF (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:10:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [2.6.0-test4] blocking access to mounted scsi devices From: James Bottomley To: dougg@torque.net Cc: Christoph Hellwig , SCSI Mailing List , Linux Kernel , ballen@gravity.phys.uwm.edu In-Reply-To: <3F4B3482.4060304@torque.net> References: <3F49B515.6010107@torque.net> <20030825130822.A4258@infradead.org> <3F4B3482.4060304@torque.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-9) Date: 26 Aug 2003 09:08:54 -0500 Message-Id: <1061906937.1830.11.camel@mulgrave> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1227 Lines: 30 On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 05:20, Douglas Gilbert wrote: > Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > That's because both mount (or e.g. volume managers) claims > > devices for exclusive use, as does drivers/block/scsi_ioctl.c > > Well it is reasonable that mount should exclude other attempts > to mount. However the device holding the root file system > may be an ATA or SCSI disk and the ide-disk and sd drivers > do not support SMART probing directly. Hang on, that's not the way it's supposed to work. Mount should be on partition devices (like /dev/sda1) whereas the tools should be on whole disc devices (like /dev/sda). I thought we'd agreed that even opening a partition exclusively wouldn't affect the ability to open the whole disc device (but opening the whole disc device exclusively would block access to all partitions). Therefore, the only issue we should have is with volume managers that need to open whole disc devices exclusively, and possibly with the device mapper. James - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/