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Ts'o" To: Greg KH Cc: Jani Nikula , David Howells , Sasha Levin , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "w@1wt.eu" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] bug-introducing patches Message-ID: <20180504211317.GK29205@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Greg KH , Jani Nikula , David Howells , Sasha Levin , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "w@1wt.eu" References: <20180503000620.GA29205@thunk.org> <20180503144612.GJ18390@sasha-vm> <20180503165446.GB30522@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20180503173422.GR18390@sasha-vm> <20180503182039.GC30522@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <8669.1525427874@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <87fu377gbu.fsf@intel.com> <20180504130932.GI29205@thunk.org> <20180504174055.GF4649@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180504174055.GF4649@kroah.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on imap.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 10:40:55AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > Ugh, what? I don't understand what you are proposing here, what we have > today is just fine, what is broken with it? What we have today is this: Cc: stable@kernel.org # 3.11 Cc: stable@kernel.org # 4.8+ Cc: stable@kernel.org # 4.8+ Jani was suggesting something documented which doesn't match current practice. See commit 8e9b9362266d, which describes something like this: Cc: # .32.x: a1f84a3: sched: Check for idle Cc: # .32.x: 1b9508f: sched: Rate-limit newidle Cc: # .32.x: fd21073: sched: Fix affinity logic ... to specify prereqisite commits needed to backport the commit in question. I am proposing that we delete what is in stable_kernel_rules.rst, because it doesn't match with current practice. If it is necessary to explicitly specify prerequisites (as opposed to having scripts or stable maintainers guess or figure things out manually), then something like this might be better: Stable-prereq: DEADBEEF1234: subsystem: bork bork bork.... If it's not necessary, fine. But we should still delete what is currently documented in stable_kernel_rules and was introduced in 8e9b9362266d, because it doesn't describe current practice. - Ted