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Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180504104539.GM12217@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.11.54.4 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.11.55.2]); Fri, 04 May 2018 21:44:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.11.55.2]); Fri, 04 May 2018 21:44:12 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'10.11.54.4' DOMAIN:'int-mx04.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com' HELO:'smtp.corp.redhat.com' FROM:'pbonzini@redhat.com' RCPT:'' Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 04/05/2018 12:45, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 04:38:23PM +0300, Alexander Shishkin wrote: >> On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 02:50:12PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > >>> And you still need the module parameter to decide >>> whether the host is _allowed_ to cause incomplete traces in the guest. >> >> Or rather a parameter to decide who wins in case both host and guest want >> to trace the guest. That's arguably better than having different versions of >> PT in the guest depending on a module parameter setting. > > Yes, that sounds like a much better approach. I don't think so. The possibility that the host would lose tracing data just because the guest starts using PT seems hideous to me... Paolo